(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(May 5, 2019 at 5:58 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Discredited by who? Is not Old Testament scripture Jewish literature? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that states "I am black, but comely"? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that stated as a punishment for disobedience that the Hebrews would be brought back to slavery in ships? Then there's the fact that Moses and Paul were both mistaken for being Egyptian, and even Josephs own brothers didn't recognize him among the Egyptians.
Then there's the fact Israel has the second highest skin cancer rate (behind Australia) which is nature way of telling you that they aren't native to that land.
Israel's Skin Cancer Rate Second Highest in the World
I could go on, but my point is, there is plenty of scriptural evidence that the Jews were black people. My question to you is who debunked it?
Really? How many people has the NOI killed?
Ok, then who are they claiming to be the real Jews?
1. The Hebrew word translated 'black' can mean 'black', 'dark', 'tanned' and (sometimes) 'tawny'. Since the speaker mentions having been put to work in the vineyards, 'tanned' is the most likely interpretation. Furthermore, the speaker is addressing 'O, ye daughters of Jerusalem!', thus implying that the people of Jerusalem were fair skinned (fairer than the speaker, at any rate).
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7838.htm
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 2. People other than those with dark skin have been enslaved. That Hebrews were enslaved doesn't really bolster the case for Afrocentrism.
The transatlantic slave trade was the only one where a specific race of people were targeted and transported by ship, hence "the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships". Egypt was synonymous with slavery, when they left Egypt, they left on foot, they wouldn't need ships to go back.
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 3. If Moses, Paul and Joseph were unrecognized among the Egyptians, the most likely answer is that Egyptians weren't black. Current thinking is that skin tones varied pretty widely.That's what you'd call revisionist history.
from the Zondervan bible dictionary
It makes a clear distinction that Negroes (old school word for African-Americans) may look like the other 'dark' races but aren't of the same bloodline.
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 4. Your information on skin cancer rates is out of date.
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cance...statistics
You totally missed the point...
https://www.jta.org/2017/08/03/lifestyle...o-avoid-it
Quote:Just 10 years ago, Israel had one of the highest melanoma rates worldwide. But then came better education about the dangers of sun exposure and an effort to test thousands of women for BRCA mutations and alert them if they have heightened risk for the disease. That effort, funded in part by the Israel Cancer Research Fund, has helped bring Israel’s melanoma rate down to 18th in the world.
My point was, the sun was killing people that were supposedly native to that region of the world, which makes absolutely no sense. implementing methods to lower skin cancer risk has no bearing on the previous fact.
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 5. You're wrong. There is NO scriptural evidence that Jews were black.You mean besides the scriptures I already discussed?
It is clear that Moses had a black wife... "And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman." - Numbers 12:1.
Also explain this one.
Acts 8:26-28
Quote:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Why is an Ethiopian going to Jerusalem to worship and reading Jewish literature
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 6. I highly recommend 'We Can't Go Home Again', by Clarence E. Walker. He pretty much demolishes Afrocentrism as a pseudohistorical load of garbage. Lots of others have contributed to debunking the notion, but Walker is particularly erudite and readable.
Don't have time to read it for the purposes if this discussion, but I highly doubt the author is saying what you think he says.
(May 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 7. I don't know how many people the Nation of Islam have killed, but that's not my point.
Boru
That was your point actually...
(May 5, 2019 at 5:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Spot on. David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are flip sides of the same racist coin. They're both despicable.
Boru
you're literally comparing the history and ideologies of the NOI with the KKK and have the nerve to say that they are two sides of the same coin, so again, how many people have the NOI terrorized?


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