Another Gun Thread

[onlinebiker]

I think that what a competent gun advocate could tell you, is that it is tyranny when you could both get 100% of what you want, and there are better ways to get it, but by force of authority one side gets the shaft and the other doesn't (or can't) effect the purported beneficial consequence.

Banning sporting rifles and their accessories won't effect the intended outcome, and we know this, if for nothing else (and theres plenty else), on account of how we're not even discussing banning the guns and accessories that actually do contribute a statistically meaningful portion of gun violence.  

Fact, mass shooters overwhelmingly prefer pistols, as all gun violence/crime overwhelming trends toward pistols, as all gun death and gun injury overwhelmingly trends towards pistols.  So....lets...ban the black rifle and it's magazines?  Mind, I'm not arguing against targeted bans and greater restrictions, I'm tacitly accepting them and that they work (which is itself questionable) -in principle-... and then asking whether the things so popular in gun control advocacy will succeed on their own merits by their own metrics?  I think gun control advocates need to stop arguing with the nuts and start making the case -for- their own proposals.  They might find that it's harder to do that than they think, and obviously harder than it is to roll around in shit with the gunswine, lol.  

I have already said in this thread, that it does not matter to me if it is a long rifle or handgun. An uzi cannot be considered a long gun. A handgun with a high capacity clip has more bullets in it, just like a high capacity clip for a long gun. Nobody needs high capacity clips or rapid fire anything.

The totality of firearm deaths are due to the fact that the makers do not give a shit about where they end up and our vetting sucks  at time of sale. Mass shootings are extremely high in America as compared to our first world allies. But even given that, the majority of deaths are from suicides, second domestic violence, third accidental. Most injuries and deaths happen with the user or someone the user is familiar with.

And it is "gun safety" not "gun control". I hate that term "gun control", because the worshipers think it is a call on our part to a one party fascist state. 

And why should we have to argue shit? We've been held hostage by the industry and their profit lobbies. If the "sell more and do nothing" worked, we'd have little to no firearm violence. But we are top of the list. They should be explaining why they think their tactics work when it is clear they do not work.

40 years of firearm violence on daily basis is not my idea of a good plan. We need to do things differently and what we have now SUCKS!

And you still provide no proof whatsoever that banning " high capacity" magazines will accomplish anything.

The only " data" you present is your ill formed opinion.