Oregon Journalist Andy Ngo Attacked By Antifa Members

[Mister Agenda]

If nothing antifa says matters because a few of them assaulted someone, nothing the far right has to say matters because some of them have killed a lot of people. If your assertion was true, instead of being fallacious. It does not follow that if I assault someone, nothing I have to say matters. A murderer can write a profound book (and a couple have).

You seem to have a limited understanding of what doxxing is. And it doesn't follow that if antifa doxxed someone, some of them can't get mad about being doxxed themselves (hypocritical probably applies). The point was that there was a personal element to the attack, there's plenty of other far right peeps they didn't bother to attack, for some reason, the ones who became violent went after the person who had pissed them off the most. Go figure. The attack was completely unjustified, but it wasn't JUST political.

You're either being purposefully disingenuous or you're incredibly dense. When you assault someone, nothing else you have to say on that specific issue matters. I don't think I needed to clarify that, and I'll just assume you're being purposefully disingenuous. When you punch someone in the face without provocation and then say, "Yea but he did X, Y and Z and I was just - " Nope. I have nothing else to hear from you on that matter. You punched someone who was unarmed and showing no signs of aggression. You're a punk. And anyone who sticks up for you or, for that matter, tries to give reasons why you're unprovoked physical assault might be okay or excusable is a punk too.

And... no... Naming someone who has already been on the news and is a public activist in their area is NOT doxxing. Period.

And, once again, that there may be a personal element to the attack doesn't mean that the core issue isn't political differences. Because that's what it is. And okay. Fine. It wasn't JUST political. A car accident isn't JUST the two cars involved in the accident. A murder isn't JUST a knife going through someone's heart. Split hairs all you want, you're missing the point entirely.

All of this STEMS from political differences. Period.

edit: Despite our disagreement here, I am in no way defending the position that Ngo is some great person... nor am I even denying that he's a bad person. But being a bad person doesn't mean you should be assaulted without provocation. I don't care what the circumstances are... who got doxxed, who didn't who did this that and the third... I don't give a fuck. We have assault laws for a reason. You can't just decide that you personally get to assault another human because you feel what they did or said was wrong. And if you think it's okay to do so, you're the problem.

Since when do we feel it's okay to question the victim? Undoubtedly, Ngo IS the victim here. Bringing up reasons why he MIGHT of been assaulted only feels like victim-shaming. It's nonsense.

And hey, maybe he's a bad guy. Maybe he did some shitty stuff. Doesn't mean you can walk around and punch people in the face unprovoked. End of story.

It's said that when someone shows you they are, you should believe them. I believe you.