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Open borders
RE: Open borders
Wouldn’t actually help, here, as a battle for how we define “moderate” between the left and right has smuggled in the same goods through think tanks like The American Enterprise institute, and how our media approaches this subject. The right is openly peddling but the left breathlessly (and uncritically) repeats it. Setting it up as just another alternative view in a sea of political opinions. In searching for that middle ground, the initial framing of the discussion does all the heavy lifting. Then there are the euphemisms, good god I love the euphemisms.

Good propaganda is good. The thing to remember in context of white supremacy in western culture (and particularly in American culture) is that legitimizing the POV starts with an inbuilt advantage.,...as we’ve all been conditioned to accept some precept or another upon which it’s founded. They don’t have to worry about recruiting, per se.....since we’ve all been groomed already ( regardless of our constant protestations and deep genuine belief to the contrary). I’m a leftist, or I’m a moderate has never, in this country....actually meant much towards establishing that we weren’t lugging around racist tropes.

There are leftist, moderate, and right wing factions in the movement, and before we get too hung on how crazy that sounds, on its face....remember that we’re not talking about a consistent or particularly lucid ideology to begin with.

Mitch Berbrier would be a good resource for general info about this. Mostly because of his accessible style and expansive lit reviews.

Also, because of his place in time, summarizing research on the movement that was already producing fruit as far back as 98. The description given might surprise people who only became aware of the rhetoric on or around 2016. They’re the borders of the alt right. How their branding efforts found success. Why so many millennials and gen z don’t recognize it for what it is. There has never been a time in their life that white supremacy hadn’t already reinvented itself. Also, why older millennials and earlier cohorts, working on old assumptions of white supremacy can and do fail to connect its contemporary rhetoric to the more familiar incarnation.

This is how and why we failed to contain it as we previously had (insomuch as we had). Why it sits at 1600 penn and we’re just now getting around to asking ourself “is racism racist” in respectable media outlets, come the back end of 2019.

https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-...h_Berbrier
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Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 2:20 pm
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