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I've Made a Video about Anarchism
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RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism
(October 22, 2019 at 12:15 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
Rhizomorph13 Wrote:Pointing out that government doesn't do that well at controlling externalities does nothing to elucidate the method by which an anarchy WOULD control them and is a tu quoque falacy.
Well, I think it's justified here. If you are claiming your political idea is better than mine because mine has some problem, you need to show your idea doesn't suffer from the same problem. If a religious person claims atheism is wrong because it doesn't explain how the knowledge is possible, the correct response to that is that the supposed existence of God doesn't properly explain that either.
Rhizomorph13 Wrote:Because when people interact there will be disagreements and those disagreements will eventually necessitate rules at the very least.
And how good is government at settling disagreements? Let me tell you my life story.
After my parents got bitterly divorced, somebody from the social security (and I am quite sure I know exactly who, but I won't name them here) made up a story that my father was a rapist and that I was a witness. Since they were in the government, many people believed them back then, including my mother. Both my parents lost their jobs and gave all the money I was supposed to start my life with to lawyers. That story was well-known, and nobody wanted to be a friend with me. I was lonely (thankfully, I am an only child, so I didn't have to share this little money my parents were able to spend on me with my siblings), and I became a part of a group of vandals and alcoholics. Additionally, my mother ended up in jail (primarily because of bad advices given to her by her lawyer, who was probably actually protecting the social security instead of her) for a year.
That's how the government "settles" disputes: by having lawyers and judges, people who profit from people having disputes, and who have a financial incentive (especially the lawyers) to prolong the disputes. It has nothing to do with justice. The justice would be to punish that psychologist from social security who destroyed my life. But, it's my parents who got punished.
Rhizomorph13 Wrote:I live in America; the populace is armed! There are governments within governments here BECAUSE of the firearms!
Look, I think we can all agree this argument is wrong because of two things:

1. I don't want to break your world, but the USA, as a heavily policed society with 3% of its population being under some form of custody, mostly for victimless crimes, can hardly be used as a proxy to what would happen in an actual anarchy. We can easily get things precisely backwards here: Is the USA full of armed gangs in spite of the repressive government, or is it maybe full of armed gangs because of the repressive government? The USA is not the freest nation in human history. It's not as bad as North Korea is, or as the Soviet Union was, or as China was in 1950s and 1960s, or as Nazi Germany was, but it's not very far from that either.

2. A society in which almost nobody believes in anarchism at any point in time is, by definition, not a fair test of anarchism. If almost nobody in a society believes in some political idea, that political idea can't be implemented (though the reverse doesn't apply). In the USA, as far as I can tell, most of the people believe in the minimum wage laws, that is, that it's justified to send the armed troupe called the police on a factory just because it supposedly doesn't pay its workers enough. That's as far from anarchism as you can get. Similarly, Somalia wouldn't be so bad if people there hadn't been indoctrinated into thinking the Sharia Law and socialism work.

Nobody said it's easy to accomplish. Like I've said in the video, it's difficult to fight against the love of the false sense of security that laws and the government give to us.
Aegon Wrote:You made a video about anarchism in Latin? You're a goddamn living meme.
I am not sure what you mean.
Nay_Sayer Wrote:So you made a cohesive movie about a topic that at its core is about the opposite of such. Fascinating.
I am not sure what you mean. Are you refering to my video about atheism or to my video about anarchism?
If you mean that anarchism seems to be full of unexplained stuff (such as "Who is going to build the roads?"), the usual response to that is that there is a difference between a libertarian ideology and a statist ideology. A statist ideology, such as most forms of socialism, is intended to be forced upon people, so, of course, it is going to be full of "explanations" of how things are going to work in a society that implements it. A libertarian ideology, such as anarchism, claims it's not a good thing to use force to implement it, and it relies on people being creative for many things, so, of course, it's not supposed to explain everything.
And about the roads... well, there are probably better options than to leave the management of the roads to politicians who have no incentive to fix the roads.

It was a lame joke about doing a movie that are normally in order and thought out about a concept that is all about disorder and randomness.

Either way, it sounds very interesting
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I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 20, 2019 at 6:32 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by no one - October 20, 2019 at 7:27 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 20, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 20, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 11:25 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 20, 2019 at 11:58 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 20, 2019 at 2:31 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 20, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 20, 2019 at 6:01 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 20, 2019 at 8:35 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 20, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Anomalocaris - October 20, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 20, 2019 at 11:13 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Anomalocaris - October 20, 2019 at 11:38 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 21, 2019 at 1:54 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Anomalocaris - October 21, 2019 at 2:43 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 21, 2019 at 3:04 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by brewer - October 20, 2019 at 10:51 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by The Valkyrie - October 20, 2019 at 10:52 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Anomalocaris - October 21, 2019 at 3:08 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 21, 2019 at 4:15 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 21, 2019 at 3:55 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 21, 2019 at 8:28 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 21, 2019 at 1:02 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 21, 2019 at 11:05 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Aegon - October 21, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 21, 2019 at 2:49 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Nay_Sayer - October 21, 2019 at 4:42 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Athene - October 21, 2019 at 9:18 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 22, 2019 at 12:15 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Nay_Sayer - October 22, 2019 at 12:27 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Aegon - October 22, 2019 at 1:13 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Cecelia - October 22, 2019 at 1:26 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 22, 2019 at 3:03 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Cecelia - October 22, 2019 at 4:45 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 22, 2019 at 3:42 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 22, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 23, 2019 at 1:20 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Rhizomorph13 - October 23, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by Cecelia - October 23, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: I've Made a Video about Anarchism - by FlatAssembler - October 24, 2019 at 7:46 am

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