Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

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Many people are parasites... does that make them less of a person?

Yes

How am I 'sentancing' anyone? I'm not saying that this should be law. Just my understanding of the issue. Am I not allowed an opinion?

Disingenuous, Frods. We have scads of nuts over here who are enacting just such "laws" because they want to placate religious fanatics.

You don't have to be one of them to be one of them. Your opinion is exactly the mindset that these fuckers use to inflict their fucking religion on other people.

And what is this opinion of mine that you are objecting to Min? I'm pro choice. I am against legalising this. I happen to think, on scientific grounds, that a person begins at conception.

If you're suggesting that my opinion should be censored, then I would suggest that you are the same as "these fuckers" who wish to "inflict their fucking religion on other people"

You were likening a pregnancy to a parasite, in order to de-value that unborn person. I don't think that holds water, because if it did, you would view all dependancies as lesser persons, with less value than other persons.

Though this was not directed at me, I did start the parasite thing, so, yes. There are people living off of welfare with nothing better to do than stay at home and make more babies. These people are of no value to society, but rather a drain of resources. I am not speaking of those in temporary need, as that is what the system is for, but rather the ''career sponges'. Society should cull these parasites.

@ Rhythm

I am not appealing to my beliefs whatsoever, so I don't know why you bring that up. The parasitical relationship applies to a lot of human dependancies... I still don't understand how you can reason justly ending a persons life on it.

You're the one who decided to equivocate and use such imagery. Here you are just reasserting yourself with the same argument reworded. Perhaps you don't understand how I would reason that because I make no such argument, nor do I even attempt to do so. Again, there are parasitic relationships in biology, and there are the things which we call parasitic relationships between each other.

I'm just going to demolish both so that next time you can just say godwillsit without all this fluff. Firstly, I haven't heard anyone here, at any point, claim that abortion is justified because the babies are parasites. Nor have I heard anyone here advocate any sort of "social cleansing" bullshit. Nothing, not a shred even approximating either. What's the deal here? Why even argue against points that no one makes? Is this a practice run for that moment that you'll actually have something to say?

So do you see here that it wasn't me that decided to equivicate and use such imigary? [see quotes above]

Mate... that post is seriously off the mark.

See me reitterate that I am not talking about my religious POV.

The point being made by Kitchie was that because an unborn child is a parasitic relationship to the mother, then that person is thus less valued. She backed up that statement by asserting that other human parasites are also "less of a person" [see above]

So same question to you again: does a parasitic dependancy lessen the value of the person?

I'm not making this point, I am attempting to defend my stated position that a person cannot be devalued in this way such as to justify killing it.

Social cleansing... nice. Any more ghosts you'd like to pull out of the hat whilst you're at it?