(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Not according to your magic book he isn't. Said book keeps repeating that Allah is fair and just while at the same time demonstrating that he is not.(January 7, 2020 at 10:16 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Thus Allah is not omniscient.He is fair and just, thus we must do the deed before we get judged.
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Magic book says no. Allah, as described, is a bloodthirsty monster, neither fair nor just.(January 7, 2020 at 10:16 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Thus Allah is not omnipotent. He has no choice but to make a record of events he cannot predict.
No. But as I told you in the previous point he is just and fair.
#note: "Just" is a trait of his; it is attributed to him in the Quran.
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Thus Allah is capable of evil. OK then. Now that we have established that...Quote:Thus Allah is not omnibenevolent. Why should finite "sins" result in infinite torment?"omnibenevolent" is not a correct word thus I didn't understand what you mean by it
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The torture isn't infinite, but subject to his will. Though it is extremely long -by long I mean eons-.That makes no difference.
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Who knows -except God- what the effect of sins is?According to YOU, he makes it up on a whim, and since we agree Allah is capable of evil, then whence justice?
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Remember "The Butterfly Effect" and its famous phrase: "The flap of a butterfly’s wings in Brazil set off a tornado in Texas"Sorry, but your lame attempt to hijack the mathematics of chaos in service of an imaginary deity fails.
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Thus allah is not at all merciful.Quote:Thus Allah has no control over any outcome, and nobody goes to hell.No. The winners will be taken by God to paradise.
The damned would remain behind to suffer the eons atop of eons in hell.
(January 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Quote:In our lifetimes?No, after death.
Demonstrate any post mortem existence, please. You cannot. You are merely dangling a promise that you cannot fulfil, nor can demonstrate the reality of it. Or anything about it. Because you know nothing about it. All you have is the insane ramblings of a stupid book. Guess what. There are many stupid books. I do not believe those either.
Amusingly, you are unable to appeal to an argumentum ad populum because you are fringe islam. And lack the populum. You also lack the argumentum part. You simply start with a conclusion and stubbornly work backwards from there against any and all actual evidence or lack thereof.
