(July 4, 2020 at 10:43 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Whenever i engage a Capitalist defender generally some form of ANCAP it generally get these lines thrown at in defense of Capitalism on moral grounds . They aren't very good .
Quote:Capitalist take all the risk thus they should make the profits they doA plantation owner makers takes all the risk when opening a plantation and buying slaves .Does that make his profits moral ?
Quote:Capitalism is voluntaryNope wage slavery
Quote:You get to choose your bossOh goodie in get to choose between slave masters on which one will fuck me over .
Quote:You can open a business if you wantSome you go from slave to slave owner ? Does this justify Capitalism ?
Quote:People under capitalism can be materially well offSlaves can be materially well off and historically many have been .
Quote:Capitalism innovatesNazi Germany innovated in fact any economic system has innovated so nothing special here
Quote:Capitalism has raised people from povertyYup into slavery
Quote:Capitalism is the only surviving systemFeudalism was once the only surviving system
Quote:VenezuelaMost of it's economy is privately owned and most of it's problems are caused by internal corruption that's existed for decades .
Quote:But look at North Korea compared to South KoreaSouth Korea has had huge amounts of government control over it's economy .Trying to prop it up as a success of Capitalism is laughable
I think that cover most of them
Not sure what you mean by the last one. The Kim Family are capitalists, they just fuck over their population to do it.You cant pay an army to defend your family if you are not selling something to make money to keep that army.
Fidel Castro died with an estimated $800 million in personal wealth. The Saud Royal Family owns banks and oil companies.
There is not one nation friend or foe in the world that does not have powers that don't invest in the global market.
The global market isn't a matter of open vs closed states. The private sector even existed under Hitler and the Nazis.
The real issue is open vs closed societies combined with anti monopoly laws.