(September 12, 2020 at 11:33 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:(September 12, 2020 at 8:29 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I agree with him that climate change is a problem, but the extent of the damage done by fossil fuels is directly tied to consumer demand - if people didn't want petrol, no one could sell petrol.
It seems a little disingenuous of him to fix the blame on people who provide fossil fuels while giving a pass to people who use fossil fuels. I can't really call it good environmental stewardship when he calls a cab to take him to get a remote so he can change the television channel.
Boru
It’s just as highly disingenuous to say the major players of petroleum industry were no more than passive fulfiller of natural demand. As with the cigarette industry the petroleum industry certainly Aggressively Sought ways to increased fossil fuel consumption Over the long run by actively distorting the perception of economic cost Associated with fossil fuel extraction, rode rough shod over Local and indigenous Rights, and subsidized The denial and obfuscation of the Implications of scientific research on the consequences of fossil fuel use. They certainly actively magnified the impact of fossil fuel burning On The global climate considerably beyond what that would be if they had been mere passive and law abiding supplier or otherwise natural demand.
Sorry, did I say that the petrocartels are made up of nice people? Did I defend them? I’m pretty sure I didn’t. Their record of environmental damage is unparalleled and their record of fair dealing is non-existent.
But 37 wants to pin all of the blame for the current wildfire devastation solely on the producers of the product and none of the blame on the users of the product, and that’s just stupid.
Want to hurt the fossil fuel industry? I’m all for it, but the way to do it isn’t to keep buying and burning fossil fuels. It’s like continuing to buy cocaine while railing about Colombian drug cartels.
Boru
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