RE: Enough of this crap, I want to hear directly from god
November 18, 2020 at 6:02 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2020 at 6:02 pm by R00tKiT.)
(November 18, 2020 at 4:46 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They're toying with the idea. A learning game with an imaginary friend. A friend they've never met, but describe by exploring further observations about chickens, in this case - projection and modeling. They're building a worldview. They themselves are the architects. Brains at play.
And is reality perceived by anything else than brain at play? Plain and simple, you are advocating for some hardcore solipsism, any inference one draws from the observable somehow became toying with fairies......... Is reality anything else but an agreed-upon imagination of mature adults who say about themselves they have no trouble with difficult concepts?
You are doing inference right now. You only saw a handful of people typing words on their keyboards then click on "post thread/reply", and then inferred that to me.
In our life we observe that precise operations and beautiful architecture only comes from conscious processes. But the sunset, laws of QM and GR, why not blind princesses ....
Consider two meshing gears....
Regardless of whether their manufacturer exists or not, they transmit torque to one another,
Regardless of whether their manufacturer exists or not, their toothed parts beautifully fit each other allow rotation,
In a world without gears manufacturers, gears will still transmit torque...............
(November 18, 2020 at 4:46 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: So, with semantics of probability in mind..which do you think is the more probable explanation for why my kids do that, and why they do that in that way? A brain at play - or an all powerful magician?
You are misrepresenting my argument here. I am talking about a general, well-established tendency among children to reason telologically, not some mind game of a handful of kids. And being able to understand "difficult concepts", whichever they are, isn't really a replacement of teleology. No matter how accurate and sophisticated the description of some particular phenomenon, there is always this missing part of why the whole thing took place. I gave ample examples to clarify this in almost all my threads .. I can eat my dinner, or, as you people say, do mundane things, whereas these things are extremely complicated to follow when you look closely, the processes of mastication and digestion can easily fill books of careful explanations. And even if you are clever enough to grasp all these explanations.. they will never get you to me, being responsible for swallowing the meal.. you will never reach the conclusion that the whole thing was just me eating dinner.