RE: Protestors Storm Capital
January 10, 2021 at 7:48 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2021 at 8:16 am by GUBU.)
(January 8, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Objection to the far left, as far as US politics goes, only comes from speculation about what would happen if they were in charge. They've never been close to running the country. Objection to the far right comes from both ideological differences and the results of their governance: a plague infested shit storm. Thus, objections to the extreme right are measurable and quantifiable where we can only guess at the country Bernie and AOC would give us in place of Kamala and Joe. I'll take observation over speculation as much as my fallibility will allow.
They'd likely try and give you a country like Finland, or Sweden before the free-marketeers got their talons into the politicians.
(January 8, 2021 at 4:22 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(January 8, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Objection to the far left, as far as US politics goes, only comes from speculation about what would happen if they were in charge. They've never been close to running the country. Objection to the far right comes from both ideological differences and the results of their governance: a plague infested shit storm. Thus, objections to the extreme right are measurable and quantifiable where we can only guess at the country Bernie and AOC would give us in place of Kamala and Joe. I'll take observation over speculation as much as my fallibility will allow.Of course, a lot of that speculation is likely based on times in other nations (Revolutionary France, Soviet Russia, Communist China, post colonial Algeria) where far leftists did achieve power. However, the more I look at it, the more I realize that America’s political system skews so far to the right (as opposed to, for instance, Western Europe) that what many see as far-left isn’t really all that far to the left. If Bernie and AOC were based out of, say, the UK, they’d probably not be too out of place in the Labour Party (especially since the neoliberal New Labour is dead and buried.) I think we’d have to wait until the more jackasstic Tumblr “SJW”-types or even Tankies to become mainstream before those fears become justifiable beyond “um, guys, I think you might be going a bit overboard.”
Neoliberal nu-labor is alive and kicking, being the majority position amongst MPs and especially its leader Keir Starmer. Their problem is that Labour voters don't vote for red tories.
(January 9, 2021 at 8:27 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: A chilling revelation from Fiona Hill, Trump’s former Russia advisor. Now we know exactly why all the living former Secretaries of Defense suddenly called on the military to refrain from political involvement. They knew Trump’s attempted coup was underway.
Quote:Former Trump official Fiona Hill says Capitol riot 'could have turned into a full-blown coup'
"The president was trying to stage a coup. There was little chance of it happening, but there was enough chance that the former defense secretaries had to put out that letter, which was the final nail through that effort. They prevented the military from being involved in any coup attempt. But instead, Trump tried to incite it himself," said Fiona Hill, Trump's former top Russia adviser. "This could have turned into a full-blown coup had he had any of those key institutions following him. Just because it failed or didn't succeed doesn't mean it wasn't real."
https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...ned-into-a
And yet there will soon be calls from The Hill and their ilk to "move on" and to absolve the enablers of Trump from the consequences of their acts.
Factio Republicanys delenda est!
(January 9, 2021 at 6:04 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Shit's gonna hit the fan. The Trump Thugs are geared up for the 17th and the 18th is Martin Luther King Day...two days later the inauguration. This is far from over.
And it'll be the serious ones calling the shots this time. The ones who came fully disguised and armed ready to kill a few hundred legislators is the opportunity presented.
The ones who won't get arrested because the cops and the army work beside them every day.
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