(March 8, 2021 at 1:13 pm)Five Wrote:(March 8, 2021 at 12:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I reject the premise as being incoherent. If I don’t believe in Christ, then I cannot be convinced that I’m going to hell until I can first be convinced to believe in Christ, in which case I could not be convinced that I was going to hell.
And so on and so on.
Boru
Ah, yeah. That's a particular mainstream brand of Christianity that says all you have to do is believe in Christ and you'll go to heaven. It proceeds with those Christians who subscribe to that doctrine to defend the premise that a murderer who believes in Christ will go to heaven, while the good non-believers who do charity work, giving their life to living well and service will go to hell simply for denying Christ.
It also indirectly takes a stab at the notion of free will and knowing whether a God exists or not. If Satan knows who God is and chooses to rebel, then why couldn't we? If I knew I was going to Hell and thus knew Christ exists, could/would I still choose to go to Hell?
‘Choose to go to hell’ contradicts your original premise.
Boru
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