(April 22, 2021 at 8:23 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're only telling me that an ideology can be bad. Sure. Do you think that humanism is a bad ideology, to justify the immediate comparison to stalinism? They certainly believe that things which aren't true, should be true, how about you?
While you ponder over that, consider this. I have a fun little conjecture I use in a bunch of circumstances that describes a perfectly equivalent statement to the one that dawkins made. The sun will rise tomorrow morning at 6am, because that's when I take my morning shits. No need to thank me, yet another service I provide. Now, you might say "that's ridiculous, you got that plainly and absurdly wrong - the sun doesn't rise because you take shits even if you happen to take shits when the sun rises". -something to that effect.
Similarly, dawkins predicted that if he said a thing, he would be vilified for saying it. He can point to the fact that he's now being vilified - but, just as you might above, we might all notice that he's not being vilified for the thing he claimed. He was not only wrong with respect to the ideology of humanism, he was wrong with respect to empirical fact.
Maybe, just maybe, dawkins doesn't share the values of the aha? That wouldn't exactly be surprising.
"Idology" or "economics" or "politics" or "religion" are nothing more than the human excuse to fight over dominance.
