RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 25, 2021 at 4:30 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2021 at 4:32 pm by Frank Apisa.)
(June 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(June 25, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: Yeah...theists "believe" there is at least one god; atheists "believe" there are none.
Two sides of one coint.
(I know, I know...the atheist fiction comes out here. "All we are doing is lacking 'belief.'")
Horseshit. You people do "believe" there are no gods...or you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one."
People who call themselves "atheists" are as much "believers" as people who designate themselves theists.
Not really. Are you about to drop the axe?
How could you possibly know what I believe or don’t believe?
I cannot possibly KNOW what you "believe" or do not "believe."
Which, in the focus of discussions of whether gods exist or not, means I cannot possibly KNOW which way you blindly guess on the question.
But I do have enough evidence upon which to make a meaningful guess on this. And my guess is that EVERY person who chooses to use the word "atheist" as a descriptor (or part of a descriptor) GUESSES that there are no gods...or that it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.
Not supposing that to be the truth would be an insult to the people I know who identify as atheists. I would be saying that they identify as atheist because a lexicographer orders them to do so.
I am assuming they all have the spine not to be dictated to on this issue...as I will not be dictated to.
(June 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(June 25, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: Yeah...theists "believe" there is at least one god; atheists "believe" there are none.False by definition. Would you like to pretend that you never gave anyone the impression that you believed atheism was something it was not...again?
Two sides of one coint.
(I know, I know...the atheist fiction comes out here. "All we are doing is lacking 'belief.'")
Horseshit. You people do "believe" there are no gods...or you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one."
People who call themselves "atheists" are as much "believers" as people who designate themselves theists.
I mean..obviously..... I think that you're a piece of shit and I don't believe a word you say, but I'm at least capable of addressing your complaints for what they are. Are you so completely worthless and incompetent that you're incapable of the same?
Are we really in a place where you have nothing to say about atheism proper, but also nothing to say about the thing you think atheism is?
If you want to ask a question of me...do it a hell of a lot more politely than that...or fuck off.
