(June 27, 2021 at 1:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:Absolutely, with no doubt whatever...it does not mean that you think it is false.(June 27, 2021 at 1:04 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I do not feel superior to either.Correct. And just so we’re clear, I wasn’t speaking about what “American law” declares. I’m referring to whether or not the jurors have to think the defendant is innocent if they don’t think he’s guilty. You and I seem to agree on this point, so then it shouldn’t be a stretch for you to imagine this analogous to my position regarding god-claims. Someone says “a god exists,” and my position is, “I have no good reason or evidence to accept that claim as true, so I don’t accept it as true.” That doesn’t mean I’m certain it’s false.
Right now I am simply saying that there is absolutely no way anyone can KNOW that there are no gods.
Poor you, LFC. Poor you.
I certainly will say that the reality is that anyone who says, "I believe there are no gods"...is actually saying, "I am guessing that there are no gods."
Nothing whatever wrong with making that guess...AND IT MAY EVEN BE A CORRECT GUESS.
Too bad so many atheists don't have the ethical wherewithal to simply acknowledge it as a guess.
No.
Qualifier: In American law...a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. So, theoretically, if a jury does not find a defendant guilt, he is deemed by American law to be innocent.
But I understand the thrust of your question...and I will stick with the answer, NO.
So...go ahead and make something of that.
In no way whatsoever does doubting a claim that there is a god...means that the person is saying that there are no gods...or that the claim is false.
So what?