RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
August 21, 2021 at 3:30 pm
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 3:33 pm by Mashmont.)
(August 21, 2021 at 3:18 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:Of course I discuss in good faith. I took on each of your points It's just that you disagree. And my SN is "Mashmont". Please do not slur it. Thanks.(August 21, 2021 at 2:12 pm)Ashmont Wrote: 1. In the family context, treating people well and protecting them aren't all that different. Silly to split hairs on that.
2. Again, talking about family situation there, regarding the intermixing. Obviously.
3. Why should an 80-year-old woman need financial support? Hmm. Let's think.
4. I guess what atheism and Marxism have in common is atheism.
5. 1839 was well ahead of the seminal Lincoln Douglas debates and nearly a quarter century before Emancipation Proclamation. Good job Vatican!!
6. Glad you agree biblical slavery was vastly different from modern colonial slavery.
1. Nope, it's vastly different. There are countless ways to treat people well but not protect them. Stop equivocating.
2. I take that as a "yes". Very interesting to say the least.
3. How about addressing my point, instead of trying to move goalposts? In my last statement, did i ask "Why should a 80-year-old woman need financial support in the first place?". In your original post you didn't mention financially supporting 80y olds as well*.
4. So what?
5. Nice job of completely ignoring what i wrote, and then doubling down on your false claim. The fact that the US was even more backwards than the Vatican, that does not make the Vatican progressive.
6. Nope, i never agreed to that, quite the contrary. You claimed this to avoid having to acknowledge the gross immorality of your holy book (that biblical slavery was different/better**) in your previous post, and i corrected you. You seem to think indentured servitude is a moral thing to do. Are you? Or why did you try to evade by pointing towards it?
Let's stop the conversation right here. You don't seem (able?) to conduct this conversation in good faith. You made it quite easy to expose your views, evasions, equivocations and distractions and that's all that's needed for everybody else to make up his/her mind of you and your beliefs. Its quite bizarre however, to see how someone seems to love to publicly parade around his dishonesty and ignorance.
*"As for women, the RCC elevates women. Its seeks to surround women with protections, aka, a loving husband and family, with the accompanying support financially and otherwise."
**"In biblical times, people who could not pay their bills worked for a master until their debt was paid off"
(August 21, 2021 at 3:29 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:Do you have evidence of your claim that these things are not consequences of sex outside of marriage? Because I can point to a huge correlation. Start with the urban black community.I said these are not Inherent consequences of sex outside. You can point to a simplistic correlation and nothing else. Sorry that dogs don't hunt, And American blacks are a unique group with lots of unique problems thus are not valid as a sample of a general principle.
How specifically are American blacks not valid as a sample that sex outside marriage leads to the negative consequences I listed?