(September 30, 2021 at 10:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you design a meat grinder, the individual qualities of the operator are irrelevant to the operation of the machine, or the consistency of it's end product.
(September 30, 2021 at 10:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(September 30, 2021 at 9:26 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The bad apple thing was an aside. Even if it's not a bad apple problem, less bad apples is a good thing. But I think bad apples (or more generally) "police culture" contributes significantly to the problem.
A 4 year education requirement alongside a quasi-repurposing of police could achieve much. Bad apple or no, I think that's worth trying.
And the fact that crime is so heavily linked to poverty, which itself is pretty heavily linked to race, the disproportionate number of minorities they see when they patrol the dregs of humanity ends up creating a feedback loop of racism that, frankly, could very well only be helped by a vast overhaul of society.
I'm all for solving poverty and/or foundational flaws in our criminal justice system. But that ain't gonna happen overnight. A good interim solution might even be necessary to make the changes you guys want to see come about.
And be careful not to underestimate the power of education. A police force full of social workers with 4 year degrees not only would serve greater benefit to communities, something like that may be instrumental in dismantling the meat grinder in the first place.
