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Defunding Police not working out.
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RE: Defunding Police not working out.
(October 1, 2021 at 1:21 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(September 30, 2021 at 10:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you design a meat grinder, the individual qualities of the operator are irrelevant to the operation of the machine, or the consistency of it's end product.


(September 30, 2021 at 10:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And the fact that crime is so heavily linked to poverty, which itself is pretty heavily linked to race, the disproportionate number of minorities they see when they patrol the dregs of humanity ends up creating a feedback loop of racism that, frankly, could very well only be helped by a vast overhaul of society.

I'm all for solving poverty and/or foundational flaws in our criminal justice system. But that ain't gonna happen overnight. A good interim solution might even be necessary to make the changes you guys want to see come about.

And be careful not to underestimate the power of education. A police force full of social workers with 4 year degrees not only would serve greater benefit to communities, something like that may be instrumental in dismantling the meat grinder in the first place.

I like this idea. It's not like saying "just educate a bunch of rookies and they'll stay beat cops forever." Long enough in the system , they move up the ladder, yeah? So the police chiefs and lieutenants will become those with that education too.

I was watching a thing about this police psychologist who talked about the damaging cycles of building pressure that cops get into. Where they get a rush from working the streets and find trouble relating to things at home. So they work more, in this high threat environment every day, never getting down time because going home and doing domestic stuff feels like a depression of the rush from work. But if they don't get that down time, that high alert mindset builds and builds until they start having stress and trauma responses, making mistakes.

If police officers were educated to understand the psychology of those they deal with, it would extend to understanding what is going on inside themselves and recognizing what they themselves need. I think that cycle sounds addicting and not a lot of people have tools to break down what is going on inside nor having any solutions to fix it.

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Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2021 at 8:26 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 9:01 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2021 at 9:15 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 9:22 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2021 at 9:28 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 9:30 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Silver - September 30, 2021 at 9:34 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Divinity - September 30, 2021 at 10:51 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Divinity - September 30, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2021 at 4:23 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2021 at 11:09 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Secular Elf - September 30, 2021 at 11:16 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by TaraJo - September 30, 2021 at 12:54 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Brian37 - September 30, 2021 at 6:28 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by TaraJo - October 1, 2021 at 12:16 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2021 at 1:16 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Angrboda - October 1, 2021 at 1:24 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Rev. Rye - September 30, 2021 at 2:29 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Brian37 - September 30, 2021 at 4:12 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 6:14 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by vulcanlogician - September 30, 2021 at 6:41 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Brian37 - September 30, 2021 at 7:01 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by arewethereyet - September 30, 2021 at 7:32 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Brian37 - September 30, 2021 at 7:39 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by arewethereyet - September 30, 2021 at 7:53 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by arewethereyet - September 30, 2021 at 7:36 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Fireball - September 30, 2021 at 8:01 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Rev. Rye - September 30, 2021 at 8:06 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 9:17 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by vulcanlogician - September 30, 2021 at 9:26 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Rev. Rye - September 30, 2021 at 10:37 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by vulcanlogician - October 1, 2021 at 1:21 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2021 at 10:24 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Ranjr - October 1, 2021 at 2:28 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by zwanzig - October 1, 2021 at 5:36 am
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2021 at 6:30 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Angrboda - October 1, 2021 at 6:35 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2021 at 7:09 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Angrboda - October 1, 2021 at 12:06 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by zwanzig - October 1, 2021 at 1:52 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Mermaid - October 1, 2021 at 1:57 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by vulcanlogician - October 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Angrboda - October 1, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2021 at 10:18 pm
RE: Defunding Police not working out. - by Rev. Rye - October 1, 2021 at 11:12 pm

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