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Not every action that a Muslim does is representative of Islam. I don't always judge Islam by seeing what others did in the name of this religion. There are times when Muslims do not apply the instructions from the scripture under the right situations or in a manner that they are told to. Also, there are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims, and just because you saw a Muslim do something bad to his wife (or anyone else) doesn't mean that you should automatically equate that to Islam. And I've seen many more videos like the ones that you posted. So, you don't have to show me anymore videos.
There's many more that I know of, but I didn't want to quote too many. As for the contradictions, I discussed this in another thread by looking at specific examples posted by other members. But, yeah, if you believe that the contradictions are true, then it's certainly reasonable to believe that they were created by fallible human beings rather some god.
As it is with many rules, there can be exceptions for certain things and that's the reason why these "minor" disclaimers are included.
These disclaimers are usually stated as a permission (as the one that you quoted in bold letters), meaning that one does not have to stop showing love or respect, but that it is merely allowed if you feel that the circumstances warrant a harsher approach. The central message of the verse is to try to be good to your wives as much as possible and that is the most preferable option according to the Quran (hence "live with them on a footing of kindness and equity"). Of course, you don't necessarily need a book to tell you that. An atheist can have the same opinion based on his or her common sense.
Not every action that a Muslim does is representative of Islam. I don't always judge Islam by seeing what others did in the name of this religion. There are times when Muslims do not apply the instructions from the scripture under the right situations or in a manner that they are told to. Also, there are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims, and just because you saw a Muslim do something bad to his wife (or anyone else) doesn't mean that you should automatically equate that to Islam. And I've seen many more videos like the ones that you posted. So, you don't have to show me anymore videos.
(November 18, 2011 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There are lots of contradictory verses in the bible too, Rayaan. The fact that you can come up with one to back your position does not change the fact that the others still exist.
There's many more that I know of, but I didn't want to quote too many. As for the contradictions, I discussed this in another thread by looking at specific examples posted by other members. But, yeah, if you believe that the contradictions are true, then it's certainly reasonable to believe that they were created by fallible human beings rather some god.
(November 18, 2011 at 3:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary, live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and God will bring about through it a great deal of good." [Surah 4:19]
Why is it that these surahs always have "minor" disclaimers when laying down the law regarding human rights and women?
As it is with many rules, there can be exceptions for certain things and that's the reason why these "minor" disclaimers are included.
These disclaimers are usually stated as a permission (as the one that you quoted in bold letters), meaning that one does not have to stop showing love or respect, but that it is merely allowed if you feel that the circumstances warrant a harsher approach. The central message of the verse is to try to be good to your wives as much as possible and that is the most preferable option according to the Quran (hence "live with them on a footing of kindness and equity"). Of course, you don't necessarily need a book to tell you that. An atheist can have the same opinion based on his or her common sense.
