(January 13, 2022 at 1:12 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(January 6, 2022 at 11:20 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: infallible is not the problems. that salvation is needed if you know what’s good for you and there is a christ outside of which is no salvation is the problem. if you embrace that, accepting infallibility seems like just the sensibly conservative bet regardless of whether on any particular issue there is doubt.
So if christianity were to make christianity appreciably less noxious, it must renounce it’s own necessity by renouncing the necessity of christ.
By "decent religion" I just meant that it is a good collection of symbols. Like Greek Mythology. How many of us have referred to "the fates" or "the muses" to describe various things? Are any of us under the impression that these immortal entities exist? No. That's what full allegorization would entail. To allow us to simply refer to the symbol... "crown of thorns"... "prodigal son" etc. without the baggage of literal belief.
Without literal belief, it's hard for any religion to be noxious at all.
In that case, you would have to remove the "commands" from judaism, christianity, islam, mormonism.
Lines such as "You must stone person X if he does X" need to be removed from the unholy text (Bible).
Some of the lines are of the form of "You must do X or else you will go to hell, you will be destroyed, element 16 will rain down upon you." These must be
removed as well.
Another example:
"When 2 men are having sex, it is abominable. They have forfeited their lives."
^^^^^There is a lot of violent language in the Bible.
If you remove all that, you would be left with stories of the form
"Jesus did this and that. Peter came over here and took a bread."
But it is still risky. Jesus and the prophets are like heroes for these guys. They might try to emulate them, sort of how some kids emulate Superman and put on a cape and jump out the window.
Example:
There is a large number of priest claiming to be able to cure people and remove devils from them.
I think there was a case where someone threw his heart medication onto the stage of Peter Popoff. I don't know if the guy lived.
A priest playing doctor like that is very dangerous. You are playing with people's lives.
