(January 21, 2022 at 3:03 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: See this image:And a robot with an appropriate optical aparatus would also detect the colors, shapes, and structures. It would also be able to process the scene from a (computed) other point of view.
Pretend you're the person seeing this scene from the angle of the person who took this picture. See the colors on those boats? The various shapes and structures? The leafy trees? The dirty-looking river?
You're experiencing this scene with all its vividness (details like colors and such).soul
Quote:Where are the neurons in all this? Or the activity of such? If you were to pick one pixel of this scene (I don't mean the image on this screen, but the actual scene irl) and zoom downwards to the cellular level, will you eventually see any underlying neurons?
If you 'zoom in' on a digital picture, you do not get the detector, you get the information from that detector. That doesn't mean the picture wasn't produced from the activity of the detectors.
To be able to 'see' corresponds to activity in the visual cortex of your brain. The 'pixels' come from the different receptors in the eye, so there is a limit to which you can 'zoom' that is dictated by the structure of the eye. So, yes, you *do* get the information from individual receptors in the eye when you zoom in enough. These receptors link to neurons to send the information to the brain.
This is very similar to the way you get a single pixel corresponding to a single detector in a digital camera.
So, yes, in that sense you *do* get photoreceptors (in the eye) when you zoom in.
Quote:As for zombies, this above is an example of what they're lacking.
It seems to me that a zombie could do all of these things just as easily as anyone else with a brain.
Quote:As for robots, they might experience qualia. I never said it's not possible for them.
in which case, I am even more confused.