(January 26, 2022 at 9:21 am)T he Grand Nudger Wrote: The worst that could be said about property dualism, I think, is that it's an arbitrary designation with no explanatory value. Sure, there are material properties and mental properties. Also material properties and wind properties. Material properties and burger properties. Material properties and tuesday properties. Material properties and cultural properties. etc.
Ultimately, it allows us to posit that it's not a difference of substance, but a difference of effect or subject - but we already knew that, didn't we, we want to know how the substance produces the effects, no matter how many categories of genuinely distinguishable effects there are. The idea that one substance can produce many disparate effects is true, but trivially so.
I don’t even know what property dualism is so I took a look at
Source:
https://press.rebus.community/intro-to-p...y-dualism/
property dualism:
I extracted a couple of lines:
Quote:According to property dualism, on the other hand, there is one fundamental kind of thing in the world—material substance—but it has two essentially different kinds of property: physical properties and mental properties.
it does not posit an immaterial mental substance
Hmmm. It looks like 16 th and 17 th century people trying to figure out how consciousness can exist in a material world.
So, they are calling one thing physical properties and the other thing mental properties.
In other words, an example of a physical property would be the mass, the hardness, the density of an object.
The mental property would be that a cube of iron has some “mental property” (thought)?
There doesn’t seem to be any discussions of circuits.
The word “circuit” is very important in this case.
I’m not surprised. Electricity was not discovered yet (probably some people were aware of static electricity), making a power source was not discovered yet, electronics components were not invented yet. So obviously, the concept of electrical circuits did not exist.
Yes, I can see why you say burger properties, tuesday properties.
It sounds funny when they say mental properties.
It would be like saying that a calculator has calculator properties. Someone who says “calculator properties” obviously doesn’t have a clue how the device works and he is comparing it with properties of matter such as mass, density, temperature, hardness, index of refraction, reflectivity, transmissivity.