RE: Christianity is heading for a full allegorization
January 30, 2022 at 8:38 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2022 at 8:50 am by Disagreeable.)
(January 25, 2022 at 11:41 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: The former side is thinking "yeah, seems like there is a qualitative difference, we should take this observation seriously". The latter side is thinking "it's to do with complexity, man, nothing more; don't worry, we got this!"
At least the former starts with the only thing that we can ever truly know for certain. Whereas the latter, however interesting its findings otherwise are with respect to related—yet nevertheless distinct matters—is not only not being fundamentally relevant in the way that is required to address the depth of the question at hand but it is also merely, solely, ultimately and generally putting the cart before the horse philosophically-speaking.
(January 26, 2022 at 8:53 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: [...]people who hold to the hard problem will insist that none of those things explain whatever their thing is. That's the entire gimmick to begin with - explicitly stated.
We perhaps fundamentally disagree, as you seem rather Dennettian in your thinking. Nonetheless, although I technically agree that there is no hard problem of consciousness I do think that there is a hard problem of matter.
No problems for physicalism or mentalism, though (not talking about pseudo-scientific 'mentalism', I'm literally talking about the notion that everything is mental. As a monist I see that everything is both mental and physical. That is not necessarily to say that everything is conscious. Although, it depends what we mean).
(January 25, 2022 at 5:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Is that alright with you?
Absolutely, my friend.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure