THE Gun Thread

[Brian37]

Drones.  They'd be shooting at drones.  The DoD isn't dumb enough to send american bodies in to produce dead american bodies - even if the situation genuinely called for it.

Thing is, as the scotus dissents are noticing - these people aren't originalists, or textualists.  They're a post policy post process insurgency of convenience bound together by negative partisanship and absolutely nothing else.  To an extent, misinformation about our misadventures in the middle-east these past few years buttressed this notion.  Being that magats here believed (for hilariously thematic reasons) that insurgents elsewhere were "winning" against us forces, they now posit that they might do the same.

Acceptable terms, if you ask me.  I'd love to see the magats "winning" like their new heroes did.  They've managed to fully exhaust the gargantuan amount of patience I have for my fellow americans from a political standpoint.  I used to console myself with the idea that, as was famously said - we'll do the right thing after we try everything else.  Not so much anymore.  The field of "everything else" now includes so much that it amounts to a suicide pact on every crucial issue we face.

You have  point there if I am reading you correctly, and correct me if I am wrong here. I do not however agree that they will knock themselves out if they win. If they nominate a charismatic Republican who is calm and seems reasonable, but has the same designs as Trumpism, that Republican could be far more dangerous than Trump. 

But you are absolutely right, in that "The field of everything else"" as you put it, does include now a scorched earth suicide pact. These right wing sickos are too stupid to see that they are being lead down the same road Hitler took Germany, and they are at this point in American history too far gone to any pragmatic level to wise up before it is too late. They are unfortunately behaving exactly like the bully of a God they worship in as depicted by many verses in the bible like "I am a jealous God", and " Vengeance is mine". They are willing to burn our institutions to the ground, destroy our principles of checks on power and become a fascist state. They are just like a hostage taker who is willing to murder everyone if you don't let them keep power indefinitely. 

I have a close friend who thought like you, always the well intended eternal optimist. It would be wonderful if they could learn from prior human history, but right now, the chances look very bleak that that will happen. As much as I love the goodness in someone like Anne Frank who said something to the effect of, "In spite of everything, I truly believe humans are good at heart." She by no means thought Nazis were good, but only in that if their government had not followed a madman, they'd probably more likely have not done what they did. Unfortunately otherwise reasonable people can and will do the most horrible things to other humans when they perceive a a non existent threat as being real. 

I deeply fear at this point, if we do not fight back we will lose the very fragile value of a pluralistic Republic. But again at least with me by "fight back" I am strictly speaking about loud voices every day on a sustained level, and working to end gerrymandering and expand our map, and fill up as many judge seats while we can. 

You cannot depend on the fearful, gullible and preyed upon to wake up. You have to attack the snake at it's head, and right now that snake is the poison of dangerous lies infecting our political system. Unfortunately the GOP and Trumpism is that "domestic" as in "foreign and domestic" the oath of office demands all politicians, regardless of party to defend against.