THE Gun Thread

[Rev. Rye]

Well, adults with guns can CLEARLY stop teens with guns - we know because it happens (of course, it tends to happen only after the body count is unconscionably high).

Since you’re clearly done guessing, consider this:

Jimmy goes to the school armed with just a pistol. He kills one person and takes a roomful of kids hostages (in the room where the gun safe is). He demands that the gun safe be opened or he’ll kill one child every five minutes.

I can only see two ways this plays out:

1. Someone at the school, hoping against hope to save the lives of the hostages, opens the safe. Jimmy now has an AR-15 along with extra magazines and a good supply of ammo. Carnage ensues.

2. No one accedes to Jimmy’s demand and he makes good on his threat to start killing children. The cops arrive after Jimmy has killed several kids and shoot and kill Jimmy (who is now out of ammo).

Now, explain to me how an AR-15 locked in a safe was any help to the police.

Boru

You watch too much TV.

Your whole scenario is asinine.

If the kid has a pistol - he doesn' t NEED a rifle to kill kids - he can just start merrilly whacking kids at his leisure because he' s the only one with a gun. What part of that escapes you?

Do you think an AR15 will get a 12 year old deader than a Glock 19????

You are playing Mystery Theater 2022 - making up goofy scenarios that back your ideas.

So what is going to happen if a monster comes in with ANYTHING - pistol- shotgun - rifle - peepee inducing scary black rifle -- and starts shooting kids in classrooms and NOBODY ELSE had a weapon or has access to a weapon???

Gee - that's what USUALLY happens.... And the usual result is a bunch of dead kids --- because YOU WERE UNCOMFORTABLE with the idea of staff( trained even) having access to a weapon.....


Perhaps we need more "Gun Free Zone" signs...

That always works.....

And I can't help but notice that you keep assuming that by the time that a good person is able to access said AR-15, load it, and actually get to the scene of the crime, the monster in question is likely to not only not have finished, but hasn't actually started yet*. Let alone that the person entrusted to actually fire the AR-15 will be able to use it properly. Hesitate at the wrong moment, the monster could probably shoot the good guy with a gun and maybe end up with an AR-15 so he can do even more damage. That strikes me as a much more practical means for a shooter to get to the AR-15 than Boru's hostage situation.

Maybe the real answer is to try and keep monsters from getting guns so easily. But surely that would never work. It's not like we're A) one of the few developed nations with such lax gun laws, and B) the only developed nation that keeps having shooters who constantly commit mass murders. Everybody knows there's zero connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it and not having a gun and not shooting someone with it!

*From what I've been able to find, mass shootings are far more likely to be over in the span of a few minutes.