RE: Did Jesus want to create a poli-theism religion?
November 11, 2022 at 12:56 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2022 at 1:13 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Neither mention him crying out about abandonment. Just assume jesus was a real boy, and it will still be the case that authors have been known to put words in the mouths of real men for effect.
There's no actual line between literary and historic traditions, where, if something is history, that means we can't possibly be dealing with a literary effect. We have literary traditions about historic events that most certainly did occur. Consider the myths and legends of the creation of the us. Did George Washington ever say he could not tell a lie, and admit to chopping down a cherry tree? Did Paul Revere tear ass through Concord on horseback yelling "The British are coming!"?
Both real boys, and still...the answer is no..and no. It's worth considering if your idea of the real boy is in any way based on such supposed or asserted utterances. That one, fwiw, is waaaaaay too on the nose. The name Israel literally means "he who struggles with god". The mythical or legendary history of his chosen people not a tale of folks who make it by privileged or unscathed on account of their aqcauintance with the same. Its thought to be a callback to psalm 22. Matthew and Mark, where we find this claim, are believed to have been the two jewish authors of the texts - as opposed to luke the gentile greek and john the full on (allegedly converted) christian.
Make of that what you will.
There's no actual line between literary and historic traditions, where, if something is history, that means we can't possibly be dealing with a literary effect. We have literary traditions about historic events that most certainly did occur. Consider the myths and legends of the creation of the us. Did George Washington ever say he could not tell a lie, and admit to chopping down a cherry tree? Did Paul Revere tear ass through Concord on horseback yelling "The British are coming!"?
Both real boys, and still...the answer is no..and no. It's worth considering if your idea of the real boy is in any way based on such supposed or asserted utterances. That one, fwiw, is waaaaaay too on the nose. The name Israel literally means "he who struggles with god". The mythical or legendary history of his chosen people not a tale of folks who make it by privileged or unscathed on account of their aqcauintance with the same. Its thought to be a callback to psalm 22. Matthew and Mark, where we find this claim, are believed to have been the two jewish authors of the texts - as opposed to luke the gentile greek and john the full on (allegedly converted) christian.
Make of that what you will.
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