RE: Did Jesus want to create a poli-theism religion?
November 11, 2022 at 1:38 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2022 at 1:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 11, 2022 at 12:19 am)LinuxGal Wrote:(November 11, 2022 at 12:13 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I think Jesus is fictional, or at best, a composite.
Once someone can convince me that a virgin birth was possible, I might rethink the whole thing.
This is a position called mythicism. I reject it because in the wake of this fellow's execution there were suddenly a number of diverse Jesus movements (Ebionites, gnostics, Marcionites, Yohanan's school, proto-Orthodox). It's hard to imagine all those groups suddenly forming without the existence of a traveling magician/teacher who stepped on his dick and got on the bad side of the Romans.
There were multiple cults of various pagan gods which also exploded out of nowhere. Is it hard to imagine there being no real freya or thor? Or, a personal favorite of mine....the multiple jesus cults of native americans in contact. Did they all know the guy too....? He actually did come back and all the white christians missed it? I guess that is what John Smith was riffing off of, but hey. We explain these cults and events as a consequence of socio-economic circumstance, but appraise jesus shit under a different light...for reasons...
As far as the OPQ, and going back to something boru mentioned and I commented on, jesus wanted whatever jesus various authors wanted. It just is as it is according to them at some level, just as god in general is a puppet for believers which likes what they like, hates what they hate. Did jesus want a polytheistic religion? Well, he certainly did when gentile polytheists were writing his lines. Or when later missionaries saw the practical utility of religious syncretism and cultural appropriation.
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