(November 11, 2022 at 6:50 am)Jehanne Wrote:(November 11, 2022 at 5:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: The mechanism by which crucifixion brings about death would seem to make it unlikely that he could have screamed multiple times to be heard from a good distance away a short time before death. He would barely be able to draw breath and would struggle just to wheeze.
This is false. The Romans arranged things to allow victims of crucifixion to linger for hours, sometimes days on a cross. If you can breath, you can scream; that was the whole point of it.
I think you'll find that your ability to linger™ far exceeds your ability to scream, and, to put a very fine point on it - these words were supposed to have been his last in those two highly thematic and culturally appropriate retellings. So, if you're imagining that, for at least some time, a crucified man might be able to make a good show of it, that particular moment in the scene is unlikely to have been the point at which there would still be any reasonable expectation.
That authors took liberties with their stories isn't in any way a problem for the looney hypothesis, meanwhile, though I do think it's kind of looney to pick that specific detail out as confirming some historical hypothesis.
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