RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 22, 2022 at 6:58 am
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2022 at 7:03 am by Irreligious Atheist.)
(December 21, 2022 at 6:54 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Even more to unpack.
There's this amusing little tick that bigots have, when they hear bigots and bigotry being "maligned". They feel that this is an offense against whiteness itself. As if the two were indistinguishable from each other. Trans people getting killed for being trans is pretty shitty, maybe get back to me after someone's killed you for your whiteness to make that comparison seem less batshit insane? Meanwhile, domestic terrorism is not rare in the us. We just don't like to call it what it is. We say a "sick individual" and "lone wolf" shot some folks - as you just did about anti-asian hate crimes. Happens with regularity, as I'm sure you're aware, trawling news networks as you do for offenses against whiteness. We then pretend that we don't know, can't know, why they did it. They can leave a manifesto, and often do, and the political wing of domestic terrorism in the us goes apeshit, with pretty much the same routine you just posted. The silly ass war on whites...which, coincidentally, features heavily in those manifestos.
The term isn't employed because it's just so common. It's used to manufacture a panic that can be leveraged to action. It's a call to rahowa. Obviously has it's hooks in you.
I'm well aware of the rhetoric of bigots. Bigotry and bigots being maligned is not what I've objected to, so you are misrepresenting me. Like I said before, I can laugh at jokes and not agree with what is in the joke. I laughed at Kobe death jokes the day I found out he died, even though he was my idol and I cried when he won us championships. Dark humour can help cope, even if that dark humour is about your idol on the day your idol has died. People on the left basically refuse to cover all of the craziness going on with the crazy types you see on Libs of tiktok, so sometimes you have to go to the dark side and watch the other channels if you want to see this stuff actually being covered.
Did you see the Lex Fridman convo with Ye? Lex told Ye to call the people he dislikes out by name. Don't mention that they are Jewish or group Jewish people together. If Ye had just said record execs are greedy and screw over black artists, then Ye is making a decent point and not being a bigot. Instead though, like you, Ye said, no, I'm going to call them out as Jews. Calling out greedy record execs is not enough. We need to let people know that it's the JEEEEEWWSS that are the problem. Not capitalism. Jews. This is what I'm objecting to from you. You must call the whites out, by name, because you see this as the way forward. This is what's going to fix things. We can't fix the problem if we don't acknowledge it, etc, and the problem is white folks, or 85 percent of white folks, or 95 percent of white folks, or whatever you think the number is. And of course you aren't going to solve a problem without first acknowledging it. You think I want to sweep the problem under the carpet and hide it, and that by doing this, you think I'm actively working against the solution and a way forward. I get that, but my intention is not to sweep any problem under the rug. I criticize white people constantly on this website. White elites. White politicians. You can criticize white individuals without pointing out that they are white and that white people are the problem. I do and have acknowledged the problem of white supremacy. When you go from "white supremacy bad" and shift to the message of "be less white and white people suck, white women are awful, etc, etc" then your rhetoric has taken a very sharp turn. You might say, so what if some old hags on The View go on about white people sucking. Well, millions of women are influenced by what is said on that show and countless other pieces of media that are pushing the message that white people = bad.
You know very well that I'm ok with white supremacy being called out, and that I care about social justice, and you are aware that my position is just that the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction and we've overcorrected in some ways, at least in terms of rhetoric. When you guys find yourselves starting to almost mirror Farrakhan's rhetoric, you've got a problem.
So because Catholic Nick Fuentes says pornography is a war on whites and porn is causing white people to be lonely and breed less, and porn is a Jewish conspiracy, that means because Nick has said something crazy, that I'm then in turn, not allowed to turn around and say that disliking 85 percent of white people is problematic, because I should be scared to be lumped in with Nick Fuentes, because he mentioned a war on whites concerning pornography, and I mentioned a very differently defined war? Nazis and I mean different things when it comes to war on whites. I'm talking about a culture war.
In defense of trans people, you claim no one is targeted for being white. Of course people are targeted for being white just like they're targeted for being Asian or Jew or black or hispanic. Have you heard of the knockout game? And yeah, most people who think Asian Americans are to blame at all for covid and who are willing to commit violence on top of that, are probably a little messed up in the head and mentally disturbed. I stand by that claim.
No call to race war has its hooks on me. I'm not interested in any race war. I just think it would be nice if we could at least be allowed to keep our hunting rifles and our right to protest, as a bear minimum. I remember you claiming I was imagining the rights abrogation though. This is the country you're planning on moving to? Hunting rifles starting to be banned. You see why I take slippery slopes seriously now? Give them an inch, they'll take a thousand miles. Death of our rights by a thousand cuts.