(December 24, 2022 at 11:42 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Where is your evidence that things in life are chosen consciously? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, right my dude? You're sounding an awful lot like a Christian right now.
Ever been to an AA meeting? Ever decide what to wear? No? Are you that unconscious?
(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: No one wakes up one day choosing to be racist. It just happens. Could happen over the course of months or years.
I don't think it "just happens". I think it's taught, by people we love and look up to as children, by peer pressure again in our youth, by social mores.
(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: A little seed of hatred planted here and there, waiting to sprout, and one day after years, you just wake up a full fledged Nazi like Ye did. Bad experiences with other races or cultures could cause grudges to build up and someones heart to harden. All determinism.
So? He's still a bigoted scumbag, and so is anyone who shares his views. He doesn't have to think the way he does. The human brain is plastic and susceptible to reprogramming, as any Psychology 101 student can tell you.
Have I ever been to an AA meeting or decided what to wear? No and no. Again my dude, stop spitting off Christian talking points. Where is your evidence? Hitchens is rolling over in his grave right now. People in AA did not consciously choose to go there. It was an unconscious decision forced upon them, maybe because they reached rock bottom or whatever. They didn't have the choice not to go to AA. They were forced to make that "decision".
I didn't claim Ye wasn't bigoted. I just pointed out the obvious about determinism, which you've obviously never done a lick of research into if people going to AA is your best evidence for choice.