Kanye West on Alex Jones

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So you've never been to an AA meeting but you know why every single member ever has gone there?

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.


Determinism is an undemonstrated and axiomatic belief. I've done enough research to know that you're grandly overstating your case ... as per norm.

Yes, people don't go to AA if they don't have the will to go there. The will has to be there, and we don't choose whether we have that will or not. Again, you have provided me with no evidence. Remember, you were the one who posted the Hitchens quote, and now you dishonour Hitchens memory by refusing to provide evidence to back up your claims. I see you just posted that Hitchens quote to try to get a zinger on me, when you don't live by the Hitchens quote yourself. I knew it. I called it.

Whether the universe runs by hard determinism or not, there is still no free will either way. No ghost in the machine. We are not separate from the universe. We are merely the universe made conscious. Being part of the universe, we follow the laws of cause and effect just like anything else. Provide evidence otherwise, or you are no better than Joseph Smith claiming you dug up some gold tablets and talked to an angel, or a flat earther who claims the earth is flat because it looks that way when they look out of their window.

Your belief in determinism is axiomatic, which means that it is beyond the reach of evidence. My belief in free will is axiomatic, because I have no evidence for it other than my subjective experience, and those subjective experiences reported to me by others.

Fortunately for me, I'm not trying to change your mind about this, just disagreeing with your unevidenced axiom.

As for "dishonoring" his memory, do you drama-queen much? Or should I ask do you context much?

At any rate, arguing this with you is a waste of time for reasons stated above. If you'd like to argue more, return to the Ukraine thread and resume trying to defend your might-makes-right horseshit. At least that's more interesting in a real-world sense. From here it seems like you prefer arguments without evidence, though.