RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 26, 2022 at 8:00 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2022 at 8:04 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Using the legacy of slavery to get attention for himself? Hmm. Isn't that what people on the right have to say about Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, and so on?Whataboutism. The fact other people may or not do this as well does not absolve Kanye from doing so.
Quote:That they're using slavery?Again whataboutism
Quote:How about we stop using right-wing arguments?It's not a right-wing argument it's a theory that perfectly matches Kanye's ego driven mindset and lack of scruples.
Quote:Ye, as a black man and a descendant of slaves, as far as I know, has a right to not be over slavery, whether he's an egomaniac or not, and surely he is an egomaniac.I never said he should over slavery so that's a strawman. I did say using the legacy of slavery for a cheap publicity stunt to yourself some headlines is gross. Those are not the same thing.
Quote:So is Al Sharpton though, but that doesn't mean Al doesn't, therefore, get to mention slavery.I never said you couldn't mention slavery. So yet another strawman. Kanye can talk about slavery all he wants.
Quote:That's not quite how things work.Considering all the strawmen you threw out thus far you don't seem to understand how anything works .
Quote: And you know how I can be pretty sure that Ye really does identify with that name and he is serious about it? Ye's been his nickname for over a decade now.Irrelevant. He could be using that nickname name for 100 years. The fact he only started using it as his real name recently and kept his birth name at all is suspect.
Quote: He didn't just get a focus group together to come up with a new name out of the blue to pull off a publicity stunt.Whether it was a focus group or he came up with it by himself the fact he only started using it as his true name says publicity stunt. You have refuted nothing.
Quote:He's been called Ye pretty much forever now.Again the fact he has been using his birth name and only switched to another as his primary name says publicity stunt. You have refuted nothing.
Quote:And again, it doesn't bother me if anyone wants to call him Kanye.Says the person who has literally a paragraph about this.
Quote:Don't let me stop you.You couldn't even if you wanted to.
Quote: I just like to point it out when I see people having a lack of consistent values.My values are totally consistent and to date, you have never shown otherwise except through bare assertion.
Quote:Caitlyn Jenner doesn't believe in gay marriage. Caitlyn Jenner was involved in a car crash that led to a person's death, and that was all brushed under the rug. I'll give Ye the same basic decency I give Caitlyn.Caitlyn Jenner is legitimately a woman and I will address her as such despite her bad politics. Kanye is a co-artist who just looking for attention. There is nothing inconsistent with treating them accordingly.
Quote: Our identities are what we say they are.Nope in Kanye case, I refuse to assume that position, and my reasons are totally consistent and reasonable. I will not feed an egomaniac's sense of self-importance.
Quote:Now, if we're talking about a really sussy case like that person who shot up club Q who claimed to be non-binary, that is obviously fair game I'd say to question their non-binaryness, because the incentive to lie in that case to avoid hate crime charges or whatever is glaringly clear.Yes that person is clearly faking it (just like Kanye)
Quote: In Ye's case, though, not so much, since he's been called Ye, for, you know, over a decade now.I repeated it one final time it does matter how long he used it as a nickname. He became famous as Kanye West and didn't seem to have an issue with it till recently and didn't make his nickname his true name till recently to me that screams " I did this for attention"
So congrats you wrote this long rambly paragraph to say nothing at all.

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