(January 10, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Authari Wrote: Yes I'm sure you're very familiar with panpsychism and you aren't just saying that to get away from responsibility of actually investigating into the matter at hand... the video does in fact establish exactly what I think it does, and as for the rest there really wasn't much there in terms for me to reject, they were just people in denial trying to throw anything they can at the idea in hopes that it will make their view point seem legitimate.
Many of us are well read in philosophy and woo. There is no evidence for Panpsychism.
Proposition: Since "mind" exists in us, it must exist in everything that makes us up, and be a building block of the universe.
Answer: It is an error to believe that properties of a whole must exist in its constituent parts. When an apple is Red, it doesn't mean that the quarks that make it up have a "redness" property. Rather, it is the complex characteristics of electrons in their molecular matrix that reflect different energy photons at different amount. Likewise, "mind" doesn't have to made up of "little minds" in our constituents.
There is something in physics called a phase shift. You know how solid changes to liquid, but you also get phase shifts in physical behavior. Put feedback in a system, and the entirely new behavior is seen. This is the basis for emergent properties.
It is far more likely that "mind" is an emergent property of a system that has specific characteristics, than it is that rocks have some small degree of consciousness. I believe consciousness is a byproduct of a highly evolved brain - one that requires us to have a sense of self and inner dialog for survival. One can marvel at how the universe can produce something that is self-aware, and aware of the universe, but marvel without making stuff up.
