The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.

[Authari]

Actually, I didn’t ‘jump’ to anything at all. I didn’t even look at the article you linked - I’m familiar enough with panpsychism that I didn’t need to.

You haven’t proved or demonstrated anything about mentation affecting physical matter (the video doesn’t establish what you seem to think it does), and you haven’t disposed of the objections to your nonsense, you’ve simply rejected them.

You remain very stupid.

Boru

Yes I'm sure you're very familiar with panpsychism and you aren't just saying that to get away from responsibility of actually investigating into the matter at hand... the video does in fact establish exactly what I think it does, and as for the rest there really wasn't much there in terms for me to reject, they were just people in denial trying to throw anything they can at the idea in hopes that it will make their view point seem legitimate.

[The Grand Nudger]

Meh, panpsychism is an attempt to redefine a god so that it fits a compromise between what we wish for and what we see. It's an improvement from pure wish-thinking but..ultimately, falls to the same issue that wishthinking beliefs do. Attempting to describe a thing which isn't there. We might say..."well....obviously, those pagans had it wrong" - but we go ahead and try to prove them right anyway, through redefinition and revision. My description of the troll under your bed will never be accurate no matter how often I revise it to fit whatever we find under the bed. There is no troll.

[Anomalocaris]

people who don’t know how to validate a proposition, and refuse to distinguish the drug addled make belief from knowledge, can not be taught.   Normally “moron” does not necessarily denote total immunity from improvement, but in the case of this moron, this Authari,  i think total unimprovability is a sure bet.

[Fake Messiah]

Yes I'm sure you're very familiar with panpsychism and you aren't just saying that to get away from responsibility of actually investigating into the matter at hand... the video does in fact establish exactly what I think it does

Dude, that video is nothing more than photos of snowflakes for which some guy claims were formed by thoughts.

Here is the spoiler: they are just your everyday snowflakes. There is no evidence that they were formed by any other forces than natural ones that always form snowflakes. No magic, no mental power.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Actually, I didn’t ‘jump’ to anything at all. I didn’t even look at the article you linked - I’m familiar enough with panpsychism that I didn’t need to.

You haven’t proved or demonstrated anything about mentation affecting physical matter (the video doesn’t establish what you seem to think it does), and you haven’t disposed of the objections to your nonsense, you’ve simply rejected them.

You remain very stupid.

Boru

Yes I'm sure you're very familiar with panpsychism and you aren't just saying that to get away from responsibility of actually investigating into the matter at hand... the video does in fact establish exactly what I think it does, and as for the rest there really wasn't much there in terms for me to reject, they were just people in denial trying to throw anything they can at the idea in hopes that it will make their view point seem legitimate.

*shrug* Believe what you like, but my degree required a certain number of credit hours in philosophy, and there were a couple of units on pansychism. Any regular member here will tell that when I look something up, I say so.

As for the video, Emoto’s work has been pretty well panned as pseudoscientific nonsense (and yes - I did look up Emoto).

Your stupidity shows no signs of abating.

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

Wait until Authari discovers another major intellectual of our times: Gwyneth Paltrow because she is also a believer in Masaru Emoto, and starts buying from Goop to be closer to the magical powers of water.

[Objectivist]

So I assume many Atheists on here believe that the Bible is 'made' up. Which is correct. Every single Book of Faith was crafted by man. And every single one of them purely made stuff up about God. Jesus? Muhammad? Buddha? Zarathustra? All of them did not exist, with maybe an exception of Zarathustra. Muhammad an unlettered Prophet would have been unable to read the hidden revelations of the Torah and the New Testament. Yet the Quran produces evidence and expands upon the Revelation in The Bible.

Ah yes. So with that out of the way. Since we I a theist, and you atheists both know that the Bible, as well as the other Books of Faith, are constructed by man. What stops you from believing in a Cosmic God? A universal sentience? I mean most of you on here believe in the Big Bang Theory so its not like you aren't used to believing in something absolutely ridiculous. Why not believe in something that has actual evidence for it? Like a Cosmic Sentience.

What I asserted before that Energy is the Essence of Sentience is although original from my point of view has actually been proposed more than 2,000 years ago. So there's actually a LOT of philosophy on this, and you who, decided to rebel against your Creator to seek freedom to live a life relegated to things of the flesh, do not account for anything philosophically speaking because you wanted to disprove God. You never tried to Prove God and will actively deny His Existence because you are filled with the Sin of the Flesh and the Black Miasma of Hatred.

from the wikipedia on this

In the philosophy of mind, panpsychism (/pænˈsaɪkɪzəm/) is the view that the mind or a mindlike aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality.[1] It is also described as a theory that "the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe."[2] It is one of the oldest philosophical theories, and has been ascribed to philosophers including Thales, Plato, Spinoza, Leibniz, William James,[3] Alfred North Whitehead, Bertrand Russell, and Galen Strawson.[1] In the 19th century, panpsychism was the default philosophy of mind in Western thought, but it saw a decline in the mid-20th century with the rise of logical positivism.[3][4] Recent interest in the  and developments in the fields of neuroscience, psychology, and quantum physics have revived interest in panpsychism in the 21st century.

Why not believe it?  Because there is no evidence.  There's no evidence that a rock that I pick up, which is made of matter which is one form of energy, is sentient.  None.  There's no evidence of consciousness apart from a brain and nervous system.  None.  One can imagine these things easily enough but there is a fundamental distinction between what is real and what is imaginary.

[HappySkeptic]

Yes I'm sure you're very familiar with panpsychism and you aren't just saying that to get away from responsibility of actually investigating into the matter at hand... the video does in fact establish exactly what I think it does, and as for the rest there really wasn't much there in terms for me to reject, they were just people in denial trying to throw anything they can at the idea in hopes that it will make their view point seem legitimate.

Many of us are well read in philosophy and woo.  There is no evidence for Panpsychism.

Proposition:  Since "mind" exists in us, it must exist in everything that makes us up, and be a building block of the universe.

Answer: It is an error to believe that properties of a whole must exist in its constituent parts.  When an apple is Red, it doesn't mean that the quarks that make it up have a "redness" property.  Rather, it is the complex characteristics of electrons in their molecular matrix that reflect different energy photons at different amount.  Likewise, "mind" doesn't have to made up of "little minds" in our constituents.

There is something in physics called a phase shift.  You know how solid changes to liquid, but you also get phase shifts in physical behavior.  Put feedback in a system, and the entirely new behavior is seen.  This is the basis for emergent properties.

It is far more likely that "mind" is an emergent property of a system that has specific characteristics, than it is that rocks have some small degree of consciousness.  I believe consciousness is a byproduct of a highly evolved brain - one that requires us to have a sense of self and inner dialog for survival.  One can marvel at how the universe can produce something that is self-aware, and aware of the universe, but marvel without making stuff up.

[zebo-the-fat]

You think the big bang theory is false, so how do you explain the cosmic background radiation and the observed expansion of the universe?

[Mister Agenda]

Lack of evidence. Proposing something has no bearing on whether the something is real or not.

There's a lot of evidence to prove energy is sentient. :T You're claiming God does not exist, its your job to prove that he does not. And I'm not talking about the Biblical God, I have shattered the Bible. So now without the Bible prove to me God does not exist, you can't do it.

I don't claim God doesn't exist, so....

BTW, is there anything you claim doesn't exist?