(January 16, 2023 at 5:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(January 16, 2023 at 5:48 am)GrandizerII Wrote: I mean, Boru is not wrong here. From what you posted, it seems like they are unable to have subjective experiences involving vision, but they could still have subjective experiences in other ways. For example, they could still hear, feel pain, etc.
Dmitry doesn't seem to grasp that even guessing where an object is, or if the object is moving, or catching an object, are ALL subjective experiences.
Boru
Oh, in that case, I disagree with you here. If by "subjective experiences", we're talking qualia. I guess what really needs to happen first is be clear on all the relevant terms here.
If one can "blindly" guess, like how an advanced computer would "guess" where nearby obstacles are, then it doesn't seem to me like this involves subjective experiences of the sort that appear to "run around in our minds".