The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.

[Anomalocaris]

I can’t at the moment.   but I can make a computer do so without being aware of its own doing so, which indicate it is in principle possible.   Also, Blind sight suggest humans do have the capacity to excute complex behavior that normally involve consciousness without the participation of consciousness.    So that fact that humans don’t, does not necessarily mean humans, not just computers, can’t under any circumstances.

That participation of consciousness seems nearly ubiquitous in complex human behavior does not prove the participation of consciousness is essential to all these behavior.

It indicates nothing of the sort until you can build a computer that is demonstrably self-aware. To compare human self-awareness with a non self-aware computer is ridiculous, because computers are aware of nothing. It’s like saying that since you can hit any computer with a hammer without causing pain, you can do the same with any human.

Boru

I don’t need to build a computer that is self aware either demonstrably or in secret.    It already does what I want it to do without it.   And that is the whole point.    Consciousness is in principle not needed for what we consider to be behavior sophistication.     

Rather we, who flatter ourselves with our conscious by anthropomorphize and indulge in self importance, both together and separately, attribute larger role and greater mystique to consciousness than warranted.

We imagine our consciousness the king of all it surveys, therefore none of the peasants in the realm would be able to piss or shit or grow crops without the existence of the putative monarch.   That is fallacious.

Consciousness is not a significant enough factor,   IMHO, such that inability to fully explain it as of yet provides much of an opening to indulge to questioning of understanding underlying bahvioral mechanism,