The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.

[GrandizerII]

So let me try to summarize this discussion:

Few people claim that consciousness could not evolve or that there is no explanation for it to evolve and therefore God (which would be an argument from the ignorance fallacy)

But, consciousness is a product of intelligence, the more some animal has intelligence the more conscious it is, and we all know that intelligence can evolve. So those few members introduced the concept of p zombie into the discussion as some sort of evidence that humans can exist without consciousness. But p zombies don't exist so other members are asking "why bother with that?" Indeed, if someone was a zombie he would be a mentally disabled person who could not function. Not just that, but our ancestors were harsh toward mentally disabled people. For example, people who were considered village idiots did not exist until agrarian societies where a surplus of food could be spared to feed them.

Who are these "few people"?

I'm guessing this post is meant to be a parody?

If not, you didn't do a careful reading at all of what we are saying. And sure, you could make the claim that consciousness is a product of intelligence, but you still run into the problem of accounting for how you could get consciousness out of intelligence (and why we even have it). And what do you mean exactly by intelligence, and consciousness (for that matter)? Your view raises a lot of questions, and it's not even what the relevant experts generally say anyway.

And p-zombies are not meant to be real. They're meant to be a theoretical starting point to show that consciousness is something that is "extra beyond" the physical body/brain (even if linked to the body/brain). Whether that ultimately succeeds or not is a different story.

I don't know what you're going on about "village idiots". That has nothing to do with p-zombies.