(January 24, 2023 at 11:39 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(January 24, 2023 at 11:09 am)GrandizerII Wrote: Meh, let them say wordplay all they want. I personally find consciousness to be a fascinating topic to explore, and like you, see something "extra" about it that isn't being adequately accounted for in current science.
Funny thing is, when I first joined these forums, I didn't even think there was such a thing as a hard problem (at the time, I thought of consciousness as something that can be entirely described in functionalist terms, and didn't find anything baffling about it).
Also, I find the biggest question for me isn't how/why we exist at all, but rather how/why we are conscious that we exist.
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Qualia are to consciousness as phlogiston is to chemistry.
Boru
Not really. Qualia are the phenomenal properties experienced through consciousness. For example, pain. Another example, the "redness" color. Another example, the "triangularity" shape. We observe qualia, and we try to account for them.
Phlogiston was something that was postulated by past chemists to try to explain something else that is observable.
Not the same thing.
