RE: The Scripture Is False And The Biblical God Is Dead.
January 26, 2023 at 10:47 am
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2023 at 11:00 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It'd be a hoot if, when we finally do figure out subjectivity, it's one of the simplest things in the universe and had always been right under our nose. Like, we were actually aware of or acquainted with the explanation but had no idea that observed x was connected to subjectivity. Panpsychism is in the category of explanations where that would be a possible outcome.
The more simply a machine could be constructed that satisfies the conditions of minimal consciousness, the more credible it would seem. A lever, for example, is employing gravity - not producing it. Human brains might also be employing subjectivity, not producing it. We're complex systems, and potentially complex instantiations of phenomenal content...but if there was something like a subjectivity lever, our complexity would lie in it's specificity and breadth, not our subjectivity. This respects the difference between what it's like to be, and what it's like to be human. There are people who think that machine subjectivity presents just such a demonstration, and has..in effect, been under our noses the entire time. I'd say that anyone who thinks machine subjectivity is credible can't dismiss some form of panpsychism out of hand anymore than a mechanical engineer can dismiss gravity out of hand.
All that said, I think panpsychism is projected filth. We'll never learn... will we.... first we do it with river gods, now the whole universe? OFC the thinking thing thinks thinking is awesome and everything would do it if it could. OFC the thinking thing wants to explain existence by reference to thinking. It's a junkie, a genuinely craven thinking addict, so it imagines a junkie universe made out of I stuff and thought-force.
The more simply a machine could be constructed that satisfies the conditions of minimal consciousness, the more credible it would seem. A lever, for example, is employing gravity - not producing it. Human brains might also be employing subjectivity, not producing it. We're complex systems, and potentially complex instantiations of phenomenal content...but if there was something like a subjectivity lever, our complexity would lie in it's specificity and breadth, not our subjectivity. This respects the difference between what it's like to be, and what it's like to be human. There are people who think that machine subjectivity presents just such a demonstration, and has..in effect, been under our noses the entire time. I'd say that anyone who thinks machine subjectivity is credible can't dismiss some form of panpsychism out of hand anymore than a mechanical engineer can dismiss gravity out of hand.
All that said, I think panpsychism is projected filth. We'll never learn... will we.... first we do it with river gods, now the whole universe? OFC the thinking thing thinks thinking is awesome and everything would do it if it could. OFC the thinking thing wants to explain existence by reference to thinking. It's a junkie, a genuinely craven thinking addict, so it imagines a junkie universe made out of I stuff and thought-force.
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