(March 14, 2023 at 11:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: God, in the overall thrust of the abrahamic fairy tale, is limited. He had to do it that way, womb and all, for example..because otherwise the magic would not work. Would not be sufficient. Human sin cannot be atoned for without human blood. You cannot say that you've resisted human temptation and are, thus, ritually or magically pure....unless you've actually been human. Gods had to respect the rules of and operate within the constraints of sympathetic magic, back in the day when this stuff was coming up.
That may sound ridiculous. Even to the minds of contemporary secularized believers - but there it is. It continued well after christianity proper entered the scene. There are italian villages famous for burying saints statues heads in the dirt until it rained. Cause that would make them do rain stuff....to get their heads out of the mud....they'd employ their divine or divinely granted powers..... The disposition of the idol or representative ritual object could compel that which it represented or was a token of, and vv. These items, to this day, cry when god is upset about stuff - or so it's contended. The committedly faithful certify them as actual and existent miracles.
Well, the believer claims (and this appears in the Bible as well) that their god is ultra super powerful and is in total control and also omniscient.
That’s fine if they want to believe that. however, either this god takes his work seriously or it is just entertainment for him.
For example, there is the Cain and Abel story. The jewish god prefers meat and not fruits and vegetables.
So, the jews spend their time, generation after generation killing a goat over an altar?
Another example would be when the jewish god wants to save the jewish people from Egypt.
But if he wants to save, them, then why did they end up there in the first place?
If he wants to save them, then why not just teleport them to the promised land?
It is all a big waste of time. Very inefficient.
It is as if the jewish god likes creating problems and then solving it. His method of solving problems ends up being a big waste of time.
(March 14, 2023 at 11:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That may sound ridiculous. Even to the minds of contemporary secularized believers - but there it is.
That's what I wonder. Do they realize how ridiculous these stories sound including the entire Jesus story?
For example, Dr Mary Schweitzer claims that science is a totally different field and that it can't prove that there is no god.
Somehow, she still believes these Bible stories.
Sorry, the video is long but some of the comments she makes is comical.
Rebutting Genesis Apologetics - 7th of 7 Alleged Myths Pt III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9pacJRudWo
By AronRa
Length = 42:48
^^^^^AronRa interviews Dr Mary Schweitzer
