RE: Refuting the Flat-Earth theory
April 5, 2023 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2023 at 9:20 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(April 5, 2023 at 2:04 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:(April 5, 2023 at 1:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Every single line of evidence - without exception - indicates that the Earth is a globe. I don’t have to know any Flatties or have been one myself to grasp that anyone who rejects such a preponderance of evidence has a mental block that prevents them from accepting it. I also don’t know any serial killers, but I feel comfortable in saying they have a disregard for human life.
If you know it’s not a theory, why did you call it one?
Boru
But Flat-Earthers think they have evidence. Some "evidence" they cite is:
1) If the Earth were round, the horizon would appear to fall as we climb. But it's always at our eye level.
2) If the ships disappearing over the horizon were caused by the Earth being round, ships would appear to lean as they pass over the horizon, and they do not. They appear to stay straight.
3) If ships disappearing over the horizon were caused by the Earth being round, they would not reappear when we look at them with a telescope. But there are reports of them reappearing (most notably, the Bedford Level Experiment).
4) If the Sun were 150'000'000 kilometers up in the sky, the crepuscular rays would seem parallel. But they do not, they appear as though they come from some source only a few thousand killometers up in the sky. (This "evidence" probably makes the most sense.)
5) The Round Earth Theory incorrectly predicts sunrise and sunset at various places.
I am sure you can find more, but this is enough to give you the basic idea.
I call it a theory for the same reason I would call the String Theory a theory. Because it's called that way, not because it is.
1. the horizon does fall if you climb, if you measure the location of the horizon accurately enough with a precision astronomical or surveying transit instrument. the higher you climb, the farther and more obviously it falls. if you climb high enough, say into low earth orbit, or even just in upper stratosphere as reachable by balloon, the horizon would fall far enough you can detect the fall by eye and a simple level. It says something when evidence is not hard but needs work to gather, flat earthers extrapolate based on ignorance and decline to work to gather the evidence.
2. ships do appear to lean, they lean away from you, not to one side, try a very small amount of geometry. it helps. also they lean by a very small amount, because earth is big and the height of ships are small. again, only an infinitesimal amount of geometry enables them to understand what they should see on a spherical earth and not sound quite so stupid. but they rather work to advertise the stupidity than to acquire the smallest mount of geometry.
3. yes, atmospheric optical effects can make objects just below the horizon visible. so just wait a while for the ship to sail farther away and further below the horizon, until the effect of curvature of earth overwhelm any atmospheric optical effect, and then they will not pop up and become again. Seen any ships just coming out of ports in asia from san francisco lately? should be possible if the the earth is flat. Again, when evidence is not hard but needs (very small amount of) work to gather, flat earthers extrapolate based on ignorance and decline to work to gather the evidence. what does that say?
4. the sun rays only appear to be non parallel because the freaking earth is rounded, that’s like saying sunlight exhibit behavior consistent with earth being round, hence earth is flat. gibberish much?
5. really, when and where does round earth predict wrong sun rise? wrong against what standard, by standard set by people who rather work to advertise their ignorance than acquire an infinitesimal amount of geometry and would rather extrapolate from ignorance than work to acquire evidence?
if you are not smart enough to address these “evidence” by yourself, then you really are not smart enough to truly grasp why the earth is not flat. you are really just wasting ours and your time by dabbling in things forever beyond your capacity for full comprehension.