(May 19, 2023 at 12:50 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:(May 19, 2023 at 8:38 am)KerimF Wrote: It seems that I have to repeat myself here because you surely didn't have time to read all I wrote.
First, I am a rational scientific man. I accept an idea while being based solely on reason (the same logical reasoning on which my scientific studies are based), so it is out of question for me to believe something based on faith.
Although I believe that I am supposed to be a biological robot which has to follow its preprogrammed various instructions (instincts, stimulated by chemicals), the only free-will I was also given is the ability to oppose any of these instructions whenever I want.
Naturally, if a robot is deigned to defend itself whenever it is attacked, it is not supposed to it to allow its attackers to destroy it while it was given all the means to destroy them first.
Some persons here insist that even 'not resisting evil' is due to the existence of some chemicals (extra preprogrammed instructions) whose role is to cancel the role of some other chemicals (as of survival). Since these persons call themselves atheists, we may say that an atheist is supposed to believe that he is somehow a perfect biological robot made just to serve the world till its End Of Service.
Now, you may ask for example:
What lets you decide not to resist evil?
I am afraid that the answer cannot be understood by robots even they want to.
I mean; Could they believe me that by doing this I simply feel a certain joy (not bounded by time or place), and by resisting evil I just feel I am another robot doing its job?
Please tell me, how many persons agree with me on this reaction other than Jesus (real or a fictional character) whom we heard of on the Gospel.
On the other hand, do I believe it is possible for a non-existent thing be useful in my life?
Of course, I do. Otherwise, I couldn't learn Geometry and Algebra to name a few.
They are based on many abstract non-existing things; as the notion of 'infinity' (parallel straights intersect at infinity) and imaginary numbers (based on the square root of -1).
So, it was natural for me to realize with time that behind the existence of my complex being (my complex robotic nature, in the least) there is a Will. But this belief has no practical information by itself unless I can also discover the nature of this Will.
So, let us suppose one gets a robot whose makers are unknown. How could he have a good idea of its unknown makers (the company which produced it)? As in movies about aliens from space, he starts finding out how it is made and for which reason it is made as well. This is exactly what I did by studying my own structure in order to have a realistic image of my unseen Maker.
Sorry, is it wise to go on while we are in an atheist forum? I have no intension to hurt, in any way, my atheist (also theists) friends here by giving them the impression that I am preaching.
(May 19, 2023 at 11:16 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I was really hoping the magic word was 'tryst'.
He never explained why my list of words was not valid. It might be because I'm not playing the game he'd like me to and now he's playing mine.
If you like to believe that all what you read and wrote in this thread is just about a game, then, congratulations, you are the big winner. Be happy.
