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Most People Insist That Two Separate Being Can Never Be One
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Most People Insist That Two Separate Being Can Never Be One
This insistence arose mainly when people discuss Jesus’ saying: “I and 'the' Father are one”. (A side note: Jesus didn't say I and 'my' Father are one).  

I am a rational realist man who cannot follow what some others may insist on without looking around and see if what they insist on could be real or not.
I simply found out that the answer of the question “Could two separate real living beings become just one?” is not only a big YES, but it happens daily thousands of times, if not millions. I guess you know how, unless some of you didn’t have the chance to know the entire natural process by which a human baby could be born.
 
So, if in the material world this can happen, besides the possible existence of real friendship (discussed on my previous thread), what makes this saying to sound as being a supernatural matter, as claimed by all formal Christian Churches around the world?


I like adding, if it happens that I couldn’t have the chance to be a rational independent man who doesn’t base his knowledge on what others (mainly if they are of a certain powerful rich group, religious or political) may say, I would have no choice but to be an atheist (or agnostic?).
Anyway, I also can’t call myself Christian because I knew Jesus based on my logical reasoning only, not by having faith in him. I guess it is well known that a formal Christian is supposed to believe in Jesus (The Savior) based solely on faith, as Pagans do towards their Idols. I am just an independent student of Jesus.
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Most People Insist That Two Separate Being Can Never Be One - by KerimF - May 20, 2023 at 8:59 am

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