(June 1, 2023 at 6:08 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Again, there is no evidence for your claim that the apostles suffered for Jesus. Not even the Bible claims that.
I dislike getting involved in multiple discussions, so I'll one-off just point out...
Paul's rods pain
Stephen's stoning
Paul's beatings back again
Peter's death
Imprisonments
Apostle beating
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning, since the world's been turning...
(2 Cor 11, Acts 7, Acts 21, John 21 by crucifixion!, e.g. Acts 12, Acts 5)