(August 24, 2023 at 6:06 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Other posters have been nicer than I can possibly be about incel shit. I'll only say that they're no such thing as an incel. Those boys are voluntarily celibate.
I think there are two basic ways to solve the broader problem of loneliness. One, improve ourselves - two, cast a wider net. It may be that some of us are gifted with better genetics than others, but that's just a starting point. I'm betting you could get more ripped than a guy with great genetics who doesn't work out. That you could be a funnier process comedian than a talented off the cuff shittalker. It's our decision to do or not do those things that we are held accountable for, especially when we start complaining about the suitability of other people....not our genetics.
The second thing explains itself...but, for most people, has an upward limit of no more than 50% of the population. Pretty bad starting odds.
I agree that incel is a misnomer. What they really desire is sexual validation from people they find attractive.
I think self improvement will work wonders for some. For others it won't make a big difference (height, facial structure, baldness, teeth, neurodiversity, mental illness etc are very hard to change through effort).
Casting a wider net likewise. Some people aren't attractive to the majority of others. Also, does this imply that people can affect by will who they find attractive? I've never found that to be true for most people. Sexual attraction seems largely outside of conscious control. I certainly could never change who I was attracted or not attracted to even though I tried a lot.