I agree there's lots of sexism and other nastiness in incel circles. But not every incel is like that.
Most lonely men who have failed to find success in dating, in my expereince, who may or may not describe themself as an incel (and increasingly they do because of the internet), are routinely rejected by women primarily because they are physically unattractive and/or socially inept (which is often due to trauma or neurodiversity).
It becomes a downward spiral for many: they received a lot of bullying or rejection for their ugliness and/social ineptness as an adolescent, they lost confidence and failed to develop their social skills, they became lonely, they withdrew, their weirdness and lack of social skills got them more rejected, they became more mentally ill and more lonely and more withdrawn, and so on. They are often bitter at their persecutors. Some find themselves drawn into online incel groups which feed them with sexism and violent rhetoric.
It is hard, I expect, to escape such a radicalisation if you are a bitter, traumatised, lonely, mentally ill, young person online. But the start was often ugliness and/or social ineptness with its roots in bad genetics and/or bad life circumstance.
I've seen ugly people in relationships too. But I've seen plenty of ugly people not in relationships also. I've also never seen an ugly man with an attractive woman. Being ugly makes dating life much more difficult. For some it never works out. For some the bad treatment they recieve make them crazy. For some they escape. They all suffer. It's all mostly luck imho.
Most lonely men who have failed to find success in dating, in my expereince, who may or may not describe themself as an incel (and increasingly they do because of the internet), are routinely rejected by women primarily because they are physically unattractive and/or socially inept (which is often due to trauma or neurodiversity).
It becomes a downward spiral for many: they received a lot of bullying or rejection for their ugliness and/social ineptness as an adolescent, they lost confidence and failed to develop their social skills, they became lonely, they withdrew, their weirdness and lack of social skills got them more rejected, they became more mentally ill and more lonely and more withdrawn, and so on. They are often bitter at their persecutors. Some find themselves drawn into online incel groups which feed them with sexism and violent rhetoric.
It is hard, I expect, to escape such a radicalisation if you are a bitter, traumatised, lonely, mentally ill, young person online. But the start was often ugliness and/or social ineptness with its roots in bad genetics and/or bad life circumstance.
I've seen ugly people in relationships too. But I've seen plenty of ugly people not in relationships also. I've also never seen an ugly man with an attractive woman. Being ugly makes dating life much more difficult. For some it never works out. For some the bad treatment they recieve make them crazy. For some they escape. They all suffer. It's all mostly luck imho.
