RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
August 30, 2023 at 10:19 am
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2023 at 10:21 am by Angrboda.)
(August 30, 2023 at 10:14 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: You think it's only incidentally related that Islam declares that gay sex is wrong with divine authority and that gay children growing up in Islamic households have an increased likelihood to feel shame about their sexuality, or that Islamic societies have an increased likelihood to discriminate against gays.
That seems implausible to me.
Do you really sincerely believe that there's no connection between Islamic teaching on gay sex and, say, the anti-gay laws seen in many Islamic countries?
Your second argument is that if gay sex actually is a moral truth then it wouldn't be immoral to teach it. Correct. But I don't believe it is a moral truth. I think on this it is your burden to demonstrate that it is a moral truth. That's a very difficult burden to shoulder.
I didn't claim it was a moral truth, only that it might be. I have no burden of proof in that case. You, on the other hand, do have a hefty burden of proof.
As to your first part, saying that something is "likely" is an implicit acknowledgment that the two are not necessarily related. If it's likely so then it's possibly not, which breaks your argument. Again we don't act on what people might do, because if we did we would all be in jail. That's not a valid argument.
More to the point, I think it's wrong to say that religion is harmful without it being a demonstrable fact. In the same way that saying being gay results in guilt and shame, saying that makes religious people feel bad. Maybe saying religion is bad for society is immoral.
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