RE: Debunk the divine origin
October 8, 2023 at 10:21 am
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2023 at 10:26 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The idea that egypt lie in ruin gives us a way to potentially date ezekiel. By the 500s it had been invaded multiple times, fallen very far from it's glory, and was no longer ruled by the natives. Just one region in the face of the vast and advancing persian empire. Babylon, the presumed source of the ot creating culture, had been conquered by the same. The nations that had enslaved the long suffering people in their foundational legends had both been overcome, and the author was feeling pretty darn hopeful about the future, lol.
I think the best way to debunk the notion that this was a prophecy of divine origin is to point out that people think it's credible (real big asterisk here, lol) precisely because the details match what was already happening in the time it's proposed to have been written. Funny how that works out. When they want to give it some truthiness chops we know it's right because that's what had happened, but when we want to give it magical chops we say we know it's right because it predicted what had not yet happened. Pretty brisk game of three card monte right thur.
None of it, obviously, had anything to do with any paul or jesus, and thessalonians is not a prophecy of any kind, it's nt. That story didn't even exist until after christ had already come, allegedly. Also an interesting point of tie in to our other thread. Believers in that story are -all- referred to as brothers and sisters in gods family.
I think the best way to debunk the notion that this was a prophecy of divine origin is to point out that people think it's credible (real big asterisk here, lol) precisely because the details match what was already happening in the time it's proposed to have been written. Funny how that works out. When they want to give it some truthiness chops we know it's right because that's what had happened, but when we want to give it magical chops we say we know it's right because it predicted what had not yet happened. Pretty brisk game of three card monte right thur.
None of it, obviously, had anything to do with any paul or jesus, and thessalonians is not a prophecy of any kind, it's nt. That story didn't even exist until after christ had already come, allegedly. Also an interesting point of tie in to our other thread. Believers in that story are -all- referred to as brothers and sisters in gods family.
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