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Current time: September 19, 2024, 12:22 pm

Poll: Implement a UBI?
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Yes
54.55%
6 54.55%
No
0%
0 0%
It depends
45.45%
5 45.45%
IDK - will need to research it
0%
0 0%
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UBI support Poll
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RE: UBI support Poll
(April 1, 2024 at 7:23 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(April 1, 2024 at 6:59 am)requiredfield Wrote: That's the problem. There's isn't one. If you give free money to degenerate, lazy fucks for sitting on their asses all day, that's just what they'll do. And self motivated people who are already likely to become successful anyway don't need it. 

UBI is attractive only to people who resent the successful and who are destined for failure not matter how much money you shove up their asses. It's a half baked pipe dream by people who don't think ahead. Not surprising. 

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you about lazy fucks and self-motivated people. 

There may be more types of people than that, though. I'd like to avoid a false dichotomy. 

There seem to be people who are doing their best, but are still having a hard time. 

I spent years of my life, when I could have been A LOT more productive financially, taking care of my elderly mom-in-law. I was fortunate in that I did have some income, and my wife had more, but not everybody can make money the way I did. I suppose I could have spent more time making money and then handed her care over to strangers, but I'm glad I didn't. 

In an ideal world I guess there would be charities or other generous people who could take care of people who are not lazy fucks but are still struggling. I think the idea behind UBI is that it is actually more efficient to create a general minimum for safety's sake.

Granted, limiting abuse of such a system would be tricky.

Well, the most generous people are usually "the" rich (aka : successful people), that lazy lefties love to criticize. I wonder how their worldview would work out in the stone age. 

By the way that's always a good way of gauging if lefties' utopian* pipe dreams are workable and realistic : would it work in the stone age, without the technology invented by and financially provided by successful people? 


* Fun fact : Utopia means "no place". Aka : in no place would it work.
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Messages In This Thread
UBI support Poll - by neil - January 6, 2024 at 4:58 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Ahriman - January 6, 2024 at 5:00 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 6, 2024 at 5:14 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2024 at 5:19 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 6, 2024 at 5:24 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2024 at 6:07 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 6, 2024 at 6:40 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2024 at 6:48 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 6, 2024 at 7:21 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 7:28 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by requiredfield - April 1, 2024 at 6:59 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - April 1, 2024 at 7:23 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by requiredfield - April 1, 2024 at 7:31 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Valkyrie - April 1, 2024 at 7:41 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - April 1, 2024 at 7:48 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 5:39 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2024 at 6:09 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by JJoseph - January 6, 2024 at 5:50 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 7:25 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 5:03 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 8:47 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 6, 2024 at 7:33 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 7:40 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 6, 2024 at 9:51 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 9:50 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 7, 2024 at 7:01 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 7:30 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 5:25 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 6, 2024 at 8:09 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Ahriman - January 6, 2024 at 9:10 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Silver - January 6, 2024 at 10:33 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2024 at 11:42 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Angrboda - January 6, 2024 at 12:46 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 5:30 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2024 at 12:49 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 5:37 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 7, 2024 at 7:40 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 8:05 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 7, 2024 at 8:20 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 8:37 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 6:17 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 8:54 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Silver - January 8, 2024 at 3:16 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 7, 2024 at 8:51 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by neil - January 7, 2024 at 6:19 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 7, 2024 at 8:41 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by h4ym4n - January 8, 2024 at 3:13 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Belacqua - January 9, 2024 at 5:31 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2024 at 11:33 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by requiredfield - April 1, 2024 at 2:59 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 1, 2024 at 5:12 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2024 at 5:32 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2024 at 5:30 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2024 at 11:05 am
RE: UBI support Poll - by requiredfield - March 31, 2024 at 2:25 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2024 at 3:40 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Silver - March 31, 2024 at 3:42 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by requiredfield - March 31, 2024 at 4:36 pm
RE: UBI support Poll - by Silver - March 31, 2024 at 4:38 pm

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