RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
October 21, 2024 at 10:19 am
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2024 at 10:23 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 21, 2024 at 6:06 am)Pat Mustard Wrote:(October 18, 2024 at 12:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The us enacted an arms embargo on israel in 1948 when five arab nations attacked and occupied the palestinian mandate. Then, in 67, the us told israel to leave sinai and gaza and rejected israeli requests for aid.
In both cases they "tried at lightspeed to make a kind of peace deal". What we have now, is what that looks like.
There's no Soviet Union to play the US off any more. In 1947 Israel was a Soviet client state and still receiving arms from it in 1968.
-and in 2024, they don't need arms from the us, in addition to it being a fantasy to imagine they couldn't get them anywhere else.... to engage in a little light ethnic cleansing of a civilian populace. Further, neither administration would cut israel off in a way satisfying to people concerned, and supposing one of them did in this fairy land we're coming up with, we only need to look at russia to see how a committed belligerent evades us sanctions.
In sum, the idea that the fate of the palestinian people hangs on the outcome of a us election is absurd, robs israel of it's own agency in the matter, and can be nothing more than yet another throwaway excuse. To wit, harris has called for an immediate end to the war and the creation of a palestinian state. The entire point of all of this political theater around the issue is to remove harris suitability conditions by means of something harris has no control over. Akin to nutballs claiming that they can't support climate policy until they stop getting hit by hurricanes.
Personally, I'm in favor of direct protection, expedited refugee status, and arming the palestinians. Unfortunately. Moral, military, and political realities are not always a single circle.
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